• CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world
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      I used to be a Christian so I like to think I know my hermeneutics.

      That said, this post just goes to show how wildly a simple book can be interpreted. I wasn’t a Seventh Day Adventist. I was a Calvinist.

      It shows just how confident you can be in absolutely nothing.

      When you really look into scripture, you come to realize it’s a book filled with words with no real truth outside of some dudes wrote it.

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          God also told me that you’re going to hell for being a Seventh Day Adventist. He inspired me to write it down and everything.

          So you got that going for you.

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          Not really, God told those dudes what to write

          I see. So you have an explanation of why God changes his mind about the details, why there are so many variants in the texts, and why some random Letters, Epistles, and Gospels are missing? If God choosr to write a book why is he so bad at the task?

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              One can’t chose to believe something, you either believe it or you don’t. I don’t believe in God because there is no evidence for it, and nothing that cannot be explained without God, and no explanation involving God which isn’t made more complicated by His involvement. If God exists, and he did in fact create me, then he made me this way, incapable of belief without proof. So his choice is that I no be ‘with him’. I have no fee will.

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                  Nothing you’ve said there constitutes an argument against any of my points. You don’t provide any evidence, just state a belief that it exists. You don’t address exactly how I can chose to believe in something. Nor how if I was created by God, said God must have invested me with scepticism, which in turn prevents my belief in said God.

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                    Yeeeeeah none of this is a response to the Epicurean Paradox.

                    Thing is, goodly godly in’t so good. An omnipotent being by definition should be capable of anything. Including rewriting the rules of logic and reasoning, math, and even how free will inherently WORKS.

                    For an “all powerful” being to neglect humanity in the way they have in order to “preserve free will” they have objectively proved themselves instead as torturers.

                    Thus, a god figure in our accepted reality can either be all loving OR all powerful. Not both.

                    All loving would certainly put them on better terms, but then it would make them an untrustworthy liar as they claim to be all powerful.

                    All powerful directly implies neglect.

                    And then of course you can argue an all powerful being works “beyond our understanding” but I would then propose that it should be within that beings power to allow us to understand… Which they have chosen not to.

                    Either way, the Abraham god is a lil bitch baby who is an outright liar about being either all loving or all powerful. I chose not to respect them, and frankly they deserve both barrels and the meat hook of a super shotgun to the face.