It has long been the case that American women are generally more liberal than American men. But among young Americans, this gender gap has widened into an enormous rift: According to recent Gallup polling, there is aĀ 30-point differencebetween the number of women age 18ā€“30 who self-identify as liberal and the number of men in that demographic who do the same.

Thatā€™s largely because young women have gottenĀ muchĀ more liberal, while young men have stayed ideologically more consistentā€”or, according to other analyses, become more conservativeĀ and anti-feminist. (Of course, not every person identifies as a man or woman. But gender roles still play a big part in shaping our lives and politics, and in the context of this column, I am focusing mostly on the vastĀ majority of AmericansĀ who identify as one or the other.) Itā€™s not happening just here either; the political divide between the sexes is a trend thatĀ researchers are observingĀ in some other countries too.

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    8 months ago

    communication about politics is hard. Just look at our conversation.

    It might not be so hard if everything you said wasnā€™t dripping with condescension.

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      8 months ago

      Lol, are you this overdramatic every time someone disagrees with you? I think you may be a bit sensitive when encountering criticisms, which may explain the whole taking the generalization of men personally.

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          8 months ago

          Ahh yes, I forgot. Anything that runs counter to your expert opinion is condescending.

          Sounds like a perfectly legitimate rebuttalā€¦

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            Letā€™s see, you said I was reductive, Iā€™m overdramatic, Iā€™m a misanthrope, Iā€™m seeking absolution, Iā€™m intentionally misinterpreting things, Iā€™m pedantic, Iā€™m constantly detailing conversations with women, Iā€™m pretending to be an expertā€¦

            I was trying to have a conversation about the state of feminist discourse, and youā€™ve tried to make it about me at every turn, to the point that youā€™re constantly making shit up about me. So now that I think about it, youā€™re worse than condescending. Youā€™re an asshole who responds to disagreement with insults and then you have the gall to accuse me of doing what youā€™ve been doing the whole time. Big narcissist energy, bud.

            Feel free to keep wasting your time disparaging me, since you seem to be enjoying it so much, but Iā€™m done with this sad excuse for a conversation.

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              I was reductive

              No, I said that the women who claim it is all menā€™s fault were using reductive reasoning. I then said your generalization about them was utilizing similar reductive reasoning.

              misanthrope, Iā€™m seeking absolution

              You said misogyny was different because it was internalized. My rebuttal was that misanthropy is also internalized.

              Iā€™m intentionally misinterpreting things

              I said people who share that that particular belief often intentionally misinterpret things. But thatā€™s not exactly rare for people to believe in things that suit their interest.

              overdramatic, pretending to be an expertā€¦

              Those I meant, but that was after you had your little fit.

              was trying to have a conversation about the state of feminist discourse, and youā€™ve tried to make it about me at every turn,

              You made it about you when you kept using anecdotal evidenceā€¦ Iā€™m not making this about you, you just keep interpreting it that way. Even though you claim these arenā€™t your beliefs, you keep saying Iā€™m making things personal when Iā€™m criticizing the belief.

              Youā€™re an asshole who responds to disagreement with insults and then you have the gall to accuse me of doing what youā€™ve been doing the whole time. Big narcissist energy, bud

              Projection

              keep wasting your time disparaging me

              You have a penchant for taking things wildly out of context and making the whole conversation about you.