• index@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Don’t vote for any criminal with blood on his hands. Don’t vote for any open or crypto fascist. The best thing you can do for men, women, and minorities all over the world is to not support any corrupted politicians.

    There’s a genocide happening right now with the support of USA government where thousands of kids already die and keep getting murdered as we speak.

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      8 months ago

      We allow and are complicit in these murders for every day we stand by and let our leaders do the murdering. If another attack happens on US citizens a la 9/11 then I will not be shocked or surprised, we have it coming. It’s literally a sake of national security that we remove our current leadership from power, otherwise we’re literally inviting a retaliation with blindfolds on.

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        8 months ago

        By what moral framework and reasoning within that framework are you coming to the conclusion that citizens who vote for one candidate over another are morally responsible for every individual act of that leader? I’m quite familiar with most of them, and none support that conclusion.

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          “If you want democracy you have to be a player.” The decision to let our leaders commit immoral acts is still a decision, and one many of us make daily. Especially when they go around killing other people, if we REALLY didn’t want them to do that we would make sure they wouldn’t, but alas, they do because we’ve given them the keys to power to do so. You could then argue “They don’t represent us” which would mean we don’t have democracy, which I argue to be the case, only because people haven’t been playing their position to have it. We willingly participate in a society that gives power to murderers, which says everything about our society. This is what is being told to us while killing our people in retaliation, maybe we should start listening? Or maybe we care so little about our own victims that we want to create more.

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        8 months ago

        Can you not admit though that it is a bad look for Democrats when they push a pro-genocide candidate and act like there are no better options to defeat fascism, and then say… you either get what you get or you get total fascism.

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          Israel is committing the genocide. Biden should change US policy, but he is pressing Israel for a ceasefire. He isn’t Israel and doesn’t set their war agenda, contrary to how fake lefties and useful idiots talk on the internet. In addition to awful, Israel is also being stupid and doing exactly what HAMAS wants imo, its bloodshed turning the world against them understandably. I just don’t understand why people act like Biden is in control or the one to blame…its fucking idiotic.

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            8 months ago

            I am shocked that more people don’t see the campism on this site laid bare with the way “the left” apparently believes that Joe Biden is in charge of the Israeli military.

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        8 months ago

        What are you doing as a genocide is happening right now in gaza where thousand of kids are getting murdered?

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            My “politics” are not supporting any corrupted criminal with blood on his hands. You are protesting against the genocide while literally begging people to vote one of the corrupted politicians behind it.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_2023_Israel–Hamas_war

            You seem the one making bad arguments because i never said women or anyone else should accept any injustice. Not voting for scum is not an “electoral protest” it’s how you are supposed to vote, assuming you are in good faith.

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                What are you, index@sh.itjust.works, planning to do that would prevent a dictatorial fascist state under a totalitarian Trump from coming to fruition?

                I’m not supporting or encouraging others to support red or blue party to begin with. Red and blue have been ruling the US for almost a century cycling in power and ruling as one. When people point out that both sides are the same they are also highlighting that regardless of the red/blue side in power government policies barely change. Many of the key people working for the government get recycled regardless of their party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

                If you are so worried about the fascist state that could come to fruition you should be worried right now about the fascist state we already have.

                Are you equating Weimar Germany with the Nazi state? Do you not see the differences between those 2 things?

                Read history, one of the many things that got 1920 fascists consent among the population was advertising themself as a better solution than bolsheviks and communists. Propaganda never changes, you are promoting a corrupted politicians with blood on his hands.

                Queer people don’t have the luxury of abstaining.

                Thousand of kids in gaza don’t have the chance to live anymore, let alone any luxury.

                If you want people to vote there are other parties than red and blue you can promote.

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                    I’m also not promoting Joe biden.

                    Yes you are, you are begging people to vote for him.

                    You seem confused, you accuse people of things they never said.

                    Elections aren’t choosing between a color or another, that’s what propaganda wants to make you believe. You are doing no good to anyone by supporting and working for corrupted criminal liars who crave only for wealth and power. Invest same of your time researching who the politicians you are promoting are and what are their affiliations.

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              My “politics” are not supporting any corrupted criminal with blood on his hands.

              You’re gonna have to be more specific, fella. There isn’t a single politician on this shitty rock who doesn’t have blood on their hands.

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            What have you done besides make bad arguments online about why Gazans should just accept that the price for your little “electoral protest” is their lives?