• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    But it’s mostly bullshit, and he’s still seen as this master figure when in reality he was mostly wrong. He should be a footnote, not a central focus

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      6 months ago

      Can you name something he was wrong about? As far as I can tell he was instead subjective.

      Psychology still uses most of his concepts, such as id, super ego, subconscious, persona, death drive, polymorphous perversity, ect…

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      6 months ago

      see thats the thing, you view it all as bullshit and many people do not, and it can’t be quantified either way. So if a Freudian or Jungian lens helps a person understand situation in a way thats healthy and useful to them, then there you go. If they don’t see things that way that’s fine also.

      I wouldn’t describe the person who essentially invented talking therapy from scratch a footnote when learning about psychology related to talking therapy.

      Do you think William James or Lecan should also just be considered footnotes because we’ve learned so much since then?

      Anyway, a Freudian analyist would have a field day with your user name, just to say

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        Those psychalysts should be treated the same way ancient natural philosophers are when it comes to physics and medicine. Like yeah, sure, they paved the way to modern discoveries, but their teachings are ancient and destructive when actually applied. For example psychoanalysis is widely considered pseudoscience, or even a cult