Okay, but you’re being incredibly insensitive by referring to the LGBT crowd the way you just did. You’re dehumanizing them, which is exactly the kind of behavior the people you’re talking about are trying to stop.
Gender is a spectrum, it’s a fact, not an ideology.
Besides that, I do think the culture wars have been pushed onto the working classes in order to divide us so that food insecurity, homelessness, and climate change are not prioritized and our pockets can continue to be picked for the distribution of wealth straight to the top. If we could all stop fighting each other over the minutiae or how people live their lives, we might be able to push politicians to fix higher-level, systemic issues.
You are not only incorrect, but hypocritical and selfish if you want rights for yourself, but not for other LGBT people who absolutely exist, whether you like it or not. Keep in mind that trans people were side by side with gay people at Stonewall and ever since, always fighting for LGBT equality (never just trans equality), and here you are whining that they want equal rights just like you want.
Gender exists, including non-binary genders. I suggest using some modern sources to catch up on LGBT issues, as you seem to have some unhealthy, and frankly bigoted, views on portions of the LGBT community. I’ve seen you completely overblow gender issues in some of your comments with awful and ridiculous “examples” (“transfemme demisexual aromantic oceangender individual” and " transmasculine forestgender cat-boychick") and those shitty “examples” do not represent like any transgender or non-cisgender individuals. That’s just not what’s going on with gender issues at all. Maybe some person online said something like that, but that’s about 0.0001% of trans people.
Exactly zero of the non-cis people I know are anywhere close to your examples. They’re all just normal people who were born where their gender doesn’t match their birth sex.
First of all, I’m really actually asking this cuz I want an opinion on this and because I don’t know much.
Do you really think that what you are suggesting could put a decrease on hate crime and discrimination and rape and belittling of all the different people, all of them belonging to different sets including gender and sex?
That hasn’t really been my experience, talking to a lot of people tends to seem like most people seem closer to my age 30s with an interest in tech or a tech background.
I haven’t really run into many teenagers in discussions.
We have correctly identified nazis, derailed their political growth, all from the comfort of tweeting while on the toilet, and you’re mad that we can’t do the same with Exxon.
This is misinformation. Gen Z seniors in high school did tend towards right wing.
Republican voters are actually sick of gender war crap coming from DeSantis and Trump, and those politicians lose engagement when they go on about trans people. 65% of the country has the liberal/freedom take on trans health issues.
Hold up you are conflating different laws and situations.
But still yes, actually, it is. Support wavers on trans issues when you get into the weeds. Most Americans don’t want to see trans binary people participating in sports, for example. They are far less likely to support trans peoppe having access to surgery as soon as they have medical autonomy (16).
I’m saying this full well knowing every single trans person is required to see 2 psychologists, and multiple doctors during their transition. More if they start as children and finish in adulthood.
Trans comes from to transgress. Not transition. Non binary people without a doubt transgress their agab. It’s not some big conspiracy, you just don’t get it and are choosing not to.
You’re one of those fucking chud-adjacent losers who think that “working class” means white 40something factory worker with a beard, a wife and 2.5 kids, and a litany of bigoted views huh?
Fact is the vast majority of queer people are working class. You can keep picking on Sam Harris to try to write off nonbinary people as being like a rich people Hollywood thing, but the reality doesn’t fit with that. You point out homelessness as one of those things we should “really care about”… meanwhile homeless queer youth are a huge problem you’re just conveniently ignoring. and if you think those kids dont have nonbinary people among them you’re out of touch. Being nonbinary isnt just something for people living comfortably.
A response that didnt mock my autism would have been a start. Showed your true colors with that one. I have absolutely no interest in engaging with any of your shitty truscum/terf talking points.
I will say, I’m a gender abolitionist and so is like literally every nonbinary person I know. They arent incompatible.
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Okay, but you’re being incredibly insensitive by referring to the LGBT crowd the way you just did. You’re dehumanizing them, which is exactly the kind of behavior the people you’re talking about are trying to stop.
Gender is a spectrum, it’s a fact, not an ideology.
Besides that, I do think the culture wars have been pushed onto the working classes in order to divide us so that food insecurity, homelessness, and climate change are not prioritized and our pockets can continue to be picked for the distribution of wealth straight to the top. If we could all stop fighting each other over the minutiae or how people live their lives, we might be able to push politicians to fix higher-level, systemic issues.
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You are not only incorrect, but hypocritical and selfish if you want rights for yourself, but not for other LGBT people who absolutely exist, whether you like it or not. Keep in mind that trans people were side by side with gay people at Stonewall and ever since, always fighting for LGBT equality (never just trans equality), and here you are whining that they want equal rights just like you want.
Gender exists, including non-binary genders. I suggest using some modern sources to catch up on LGBT issues, as you seem to have some unhealthy, and frankly bigoted, views on portions of the LGBT community. I’ve seen you completely overblow gender issues in some of your comments with awful and ridiculous “examples” (“transfemme demisexual aromantic oceangender individual” and " transmasculine forestgender cat-boychick") and those shitty “examples” do not represent like any transgender or non-cisgender individuals. That’s just not what’s going on with gender issues at all. Maybe some person online said something like that, but that’s about 0.0001% of trans people.
Exactly zero of the non-cis people I know are anywhere close to your examples. They’re all just normal people who were born where their gender doesn’t match their birth sex.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359295113_The_Biological_Basis_of_Gender_Incongruence
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6748626/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6830997/
First of all, I’m really actually asking this cuz I want an opinion on this and because I don’t know much.
Do you really think that what you are suggesting could put a decrease on hate crime and discrimination and rape and belittling of all the different people, all of them belonging to different sets including gender and sex?
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That hasn’t really been my experience, talking to a lot of people tends to seem like most people seem closer to my age 30s with an interest in tech or a tech background.
I haven’t really run into many teenagers in discussions.
We have correctly identified nazis, derailed their political growth, all from the comfort of tweeting while on the toilet, and you’re mad that we can’t do the same with Exxon.
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This is misinformation. Gen Z seniors in high school did tend towards right wing. Republican voters are actually sick of gender war crap coming from DeSantis and Trump, and those politicians lose engagement when they go on about trans people. 65% of the country has the liberal/freedom take on trans health issues.
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Hold up you are conflating different laws and situations. But still yes, actually, it is. Support wavers on trans issues when you get into the weeds. Most Americans don’t want to see trans binary people participating in sports, for example. They are far less likely to support trans peoppe having access to surgery as soon as they have medical autonomy (16).
I’m saying this full well knowing every single trans person is required to see 2 psychologists, and multiple doctors during their transition. More if they start as children and finish in adulthood.
Hey transphobe, everyone irl fucking hates you. Think before you say hateful shit.
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Trans comes from to transgress. Not transition. Non binary people without a doubt transgress their agab. It’s not some big conspiracy, you just don’t get it and are choosing not to.
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You’re one of those fucking chud-adjacent losers who think that “working class” means white 40something factory worker with a beard, a wife and 2.5 kids, and a litany of bigoted views huh?
Fact is the vast majority of queer people are working class. You can keep picking on Sam Harris to try to write off nonbinary people as being like a rich people Hollywood thing, but the reality doesn’t fit with that. You point out homelessness as one of those things we should “really care about”… meanwhile homeless queer youth are a huge problem you’re just conveniently ignoring. and if you think those kids dont have nonbinary people among them you’re out of touch. Being nonbinary isnt just something for people living comfortably.
https://socialistvoice.ie/2020/02/combating-tailism-and-economism/
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Go back to reddit
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Ah, ok, you’re just a fucking asshole then. Let me remove the “adjacent” from my above statement.
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A response that didnt mock my autism would have been a start. Showed your true colors with that one. I have absolutely no interest in engaging with any of your shitty truscum/terf talking points.
I will say, I’m a gender abolitionist and so is like literally every nonbinary person I know. They arent incompatible.
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