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    I can tune out tankie nonsense (not accusing everyone at hexbear of being tankies, but you guys sure do hang out with a lot of them) pretty easily, it’s the 20 full pages of literal pig shit I’m talking about

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        My personal definition would be “authoritarian communist (or “”“communist””“) regime supporters/apologists”. I think a good litmus test is, if the topic of the Tiananmen Square massacre comes up, and their first input is “Ok, but, how many zeroes did the number of dead civilians really have”, they’re probably too far gone to bother engaging much with

        Too many anarchist/commune types consider the authoritarians to be their allies because they also hate the capitalists, right up until the point they’re next on the list of undesirables destined for the wall

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          👏 Then 👏 read 👏 the 👏 Wiki 👏 page 👏

          Because that will tell you the answer is 1. One zero. Because the number of dead civilians in the Tiananmen Square Massacre is zero. No civilian deaths there. Nada. Read the wiki page, it will tell you no deaths. This information brought to you by such Commies as:

          • the US Government,
          • the Washington Post correspondent (who was there all night),
          • the CBS correspondent (same),
          • and more!

          Were there a limited number of deaths in protests elsewhere that wasn’t Tiananmen? Yep, about 2-3 hundred across a few hundred cities. And that’s bad! But is also pretty dang small relative to the protest size, and happens in all major protests in all countries everywhere.

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            This is and has always been a red herring. It’s irrelevant if people were killed in the square or in the streets around the square. People were killed in Beijing by the Chinese military in order to suppress the protests. End of story.

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              Well, A massive, purposeful, misinformation campaign by the western governments and news sites that had claimed that there were no deaths in the square in the past and then changed their narrative all of a sudden, would, to me, suggest that these entities might also be misreprenting or lying about the other events. The story obviously does not end there.

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                Yes, Western media can definitely not be trusted. Better to get the real story from the secretive, authoritarian government that heavily suppresses speech and directly controls its major media outlets.

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                  Dang I hate secretive governments, can you direct me to a western government that exposes all of its internal communications and doesn’t have a huge amount of “former” state agents in major media publications?

                  edit: folks, I have had my weekend water on a Monday

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                    You’re right, there isn’t a single Western country that has a freer press than China. In fact, China may be the world’s last bastion of open information and free speech.