If any of y’all were curious of Beeper when it came out (a Matrix backed chat app) but weren’t able to get an invite for whatever reason, then here ya go! Feel free to ask any questions about it if you got any! (No I don’t work for Beeper, just like this more than Element and self-hosting)
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I am using the service, but there’s a lot I don’t like and I’m hoping to spin up my own matrix server and host their bridges on my own machine.
- Beeper cannot send View once messages/media. 2.View once media that is sent on native Signal and WhatsApp are viewable forever through Beeper.
- There is no way to delete chats/messages
- Read receipt settings are not respected in signal & WhatsApp, and read receipts are always sent.
Privacy policy is vague and when pressed on if he would sell user data along with the service if he sold it, Eric Migicovsky was silent.
He sold Pebble and screwed the workers on the way out.
So how soon does he sell this when it isn’t profitable enough for him? What use is a privacy policy if it can be changed by whoever he sells it to?
Also from what I understand if you aren’t running your own iMessage bridge and using theirs, technically they have access to your username/password or password hash for the service.
Personal experience: Was on waitlist for over a year. Got an email for onboarding. Told to join zoom call. Zoom call notifies me it will be recorded. There was no previous notification from Beeper that they would be recording onboardings. I declined and hung up the call.
It took them days to reach out and offer a non recorded session. At that point I asked if they would answer privacy related questions and they ignored them. No response. I declined to use their service since.
Personal opinion, with all these sketchy things about Eric Migicovsky and privacy, I’d err on the side of spinning up my own Matrix server and bridges, you know, with blackjack and hookers.
I got an invitation the other week and I’m using it for things that are fiddly to maintain a bridge with self hosted Synapse and Mautrix, which I also use. I was having a look at the phone app and just noticed that it’s mostly reskinned Element. I’d be interested in hearing what their phase 2 is though and perhaps more how it’s going to affect individuals.
What do you mean by Phase 2?
There’s some stuff about the roadmap for most of this year: https://blog.beeper.com/p/state-of-the-app-spring-2023
As in the Underpants Gnomes - what does it do to make a profit? I’ve since seen they’re going to charge $10 a month, which is fine, but from my point of view I run Matrix with the same bridges all ready so don’t need it. However, if they’re going to make multiple chat applications work in one app with privacy then it’s worth supporting.
