i love all kinds of socialist shit:
socialized medicine
socialized housing
socialized transportation
you know what kinda’ socialism SUCKS though? Socialized risk, where corporations get to distribute their burdens but hoard all their profits.
THAT kind of socialism needs to fucking die.
Whenever someone calls something “socialist”, ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it “Owningthelibism” or something.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Bless the cold war brainwash with loads if patriotism on USA citizens. It seems to still be working.
There are “socialists” running around who don’t know what socialism is. Hint: it has nothing to do with government-subsidized services.
I had multiple times experiences like that with American redditors.
They would say that socialism is nazism because National Socialism.
So yeah, didn’t know really what to answer to such level of ignorance.
Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that’s not socialism. It’s just not neoliberalism.
What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?
Not socialism.
Concentration of power with those “social services”, making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.
Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.
China has tons of small and big businesses and it’s still socialist.
Chinese companies are basically extensions of the government.
Most corperations are, in any country.
When you say “no room to make business.” That’s where I think the fundamental disagreement is rooted. Socialism is inherently built on the idea that what you are building in a capitalist system is exploiting labour. The people you bring in should have ownership of the company too in a socialist system, not the state. What you’re describing is a communist dictatorship. State programs should be run by the state just as they are in most countries now. You certainly don’t want companies running your government.
It’s true. Everything I don’t like is socialist. And referring to things that don’t work as socialist no matter the context is an excellent idea, I’ll be doing that from now on.
“Socialism is when the government does stuff. The more stuff it does, the more socialist it is. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it’s communism”
Please do correct me
Why would you come into a thread and enthusiastically declare yourself a dickhead weirdo
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If a socialist calls you a dickhead, it means they’re still trying to spare your feels.
I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a “right-wing extremist”.
There is such a thing as a “non-extremist” right-winger?
No, they’re all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others’ properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.
Lol!
Found another fascist!
Oh look a libertarian
I already have the right to say my mind and it doesn’t help my living situation at all, meanwhile right-wingers thankfully utilise their right to call for my death, the concentration of power is all in businesses which right-wingers consistently protect, and wtf does it mean to defend stable families?
Undoing all the tax, benefits, and public services I’ve ever had wouldn’t get me out of poverty. Undoing the business and the non-worker class price gouging and manipulating of me and my family, and instead having a better incentive than profit, absolutely would.
Pipe down, bud. Us grownups have a class war to fight.
Will people ever learn to not fight among themselves?
Copium 🚬💨
Yep, that or a fascist.
