Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post, thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
a near 12,000 word anonymous hit piece on Ćmile Torres on the EA forum has some gems in the comments.
the top comment basically calls it out as someone airing their personal grievances.
next comment feels the need to call out Torres and Gebru are big bad bullies:
and my personal favorite, that Marxās drive was more akin to rationalists than current leftists, because leftists for the ālast ten-fifteen years just [havenāt] been very rationalā
I donāt think I have seen Gebru do that, or at least not often and when she does she quote tweets people like Stephen King having a bad take. She is way more aggressive about all the various wars and genocides going on in Africa atm which we are all ignoring. You can also see that despite her huge following the actual interactions she gets is pretty low https://x.com/timnitGebru https://xcancel.com/timnitGebru. But lets just ignore reality like how we are ignoring those wars and genocides in Africa. (This last part was sponsored by Gebruās rage vs our inaction and ignorance regarding all these conflicts).
And it keeps being amazing that the guy who wrote that hitpiece is defending the people behind the grievance studies hoax oddly silent on Lindsay however, I assume that any stalking by Torres was also done vs Lindsay but I guess EA no longer defends innocent conspiracy theory anti-Semites (He has gone so nuts that the other hoax people tried to make him turn it down a bit, but no idea if he stopped).
The promptfondlers have learned (by way of multiple public thrashings) not to get into technical arguments with The Parrot Posse, so tedious innuendo about communism and cancel culture is all they have left.
But cancel culture is real, see what they did to the guy who leaked Scotts emails. ;)
Did that dude get canceled?
iirc he retracted his leaks after pressure from the community, it was all very shooting the messenger.
they deleted the leak tweet shortly after it was posted but after it was already firmly archived
I donāt recall them commenting since
That piece has been referenced here before, but thanks for diving into the comments. The one about Marx is pretty funny, Iām sure the commenter has only read the Cliff Nots of both Marx and ācurrent leftistsā.
Itās funny how theyāve taken on Marx and Communism as an unmarked Good Person in a weird sort of half troll (remember Musk claiming to be a socialist? to say nothing of Ms. Boucher as a cosplay elf reading the communist manifesto). Itās not quite like American racists and capitalists claiming Dr. King would have Supported Them, Actually, because itās half serious (people like leftism so unfettered wealth acquisition is the real leftism) and half trolling. Theyāre trying to get props and have a haha-j/k back door out of the claim at the same time.
I think a big part of Marxā appeal back in the day was that he was fully slotted into the rationalist milieu of the time. Identifying an impersonal, inevitable āmarch of progressā that wasnāt religious was a powerful idea for some people.
(btw the Communist Manifesto is 150 years old and could have been written yesterday, at least the first part)
By all accounts, postwar Soviet union was a pretty sexist and racist place. Itās no wonder the āold guardā communists look at todayās blue-haired leftists and sound just like crusty old fascists.
If you see a reactionary impulse as a desire to go back to an imagined past, the āold guardā communists (who mostly didnāt seem to have lived under communism) aka the tankies, being similar to crusty old fascists (who also didnāt live in a fascist regime, or in the world depicted by 50s americana postcards/commercials) makes a lot of sense.
Itās ironic that there is a āgood old daysā of (state) Communism, seeing that it was supposed to be the end of history.
(side note, back in HS I saw a graph illustrating the Marxist theory that successive revolutions lifted human civilization up a series of stairs (pastoralism -> city states -> feudalism -> centralized kingdoms -> bourgeois capitalism) up until Communism where these steps became an ascending straight lineā¦ and I though āhey, why does the line straighten out just there???ā)
They never said which end
Obviously the arse end.
Apparently she wasnāt reading it, it was a troll, she had borrowed the book for the photo-op. So it is actually worse.