• Holzkohlen@feddit.de
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    20 days ago

    Nah, I call bullshit. You can try every little thing you want. In the end in won’t matter. We are fucked and you just can’t accept it. We either massively change things now or our efforts won’t matter. People already complain about small changes and what we need means a massive lifestyle change for billions. It ain’t happening. Get your head out of your own ass please.

    • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      How about you go fuck yourself and jerk off to doomer porn?

      In world war 2, did people think “ah fuck defeating the nazis. They already killed millions of people. We should just five up”?

      If your kitchen is on fire, do you just say fuck it? And let the rest of the house burn too?

      What is it with you cunts giving up on every single setback?

      You sound like you would let yourself drown because “oh fuck it my pants are already wet.”.

      Get YOUR head out of the asses of the people destroying the planet. You’re literally on their side with the constant calls for giving up.

      Fuck. You.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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        20 days ago

        Okay, so what do I do?

        Vote? Been doing that. Doesn’t seem to be helping.

        Recycle? Okay, let’s have two trucks pick up garbage every week.

        Eat less meat? Been doing that. But I’m a drop in the ocean.

        Drive less? Been doing that. But it’s made completely inconsequential because of private jet owners.

        Short of killing large numbers of people in the first world we won’t be able to even slow it down.

        So what do I do that can actually have an impact?

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          They are spinning around throwing punches in all directions and mostly just hitting the air. We are nowhere near actually getting a punch across the jaw of any of the people that it actually matters for.

          I get it. It’s maddening to have no obvious villain but be surrounded by “bad” people. We do need people to flail and cling to life but they are more just trying to appease their own mind than anything.

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          Vote? Been doing that. Doesn’t seem to be helping.

          Vote, of course. But also donate and campaign. The only way out of this mess is political. Volunteer. Protest. Rally others.

          There are political parties, big, mainstream ones that frequently win elections, who want to bring us to carbon neutrality and even beyond, to undo the damage of past generations. Give them more power. They’re stemming the tide but with enough power they could reverse it.

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          20 days ago

          You actually have a positive impact. But you’re also having a negative impact by spreading the mentality of “nothing will change”, both to yourself and to other people you’re voicing it to. It makes yourself and everyone you voice it to less likely to take action like you did.

          Don’t get me wrong, I also realistically believe we will run into massive problems. But the only sensible thing to do is just keep trying everything possible personally, it’s the right thing to do.

          • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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            19 days ago

            So lie to myself and others? Because “nothing will change” has been my lived experience my entire life. Should I just ignore the helplessness and hopelessness and put on a happy face?

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        19 days ago

        I voted for sanders, continue to try and vote for a at least halfway decent candidate, i moved into an rv that i retrofitted to be fully solar powered. 3.6Kw of panels, 15kwh of battery, haven’t had to touch the grid since installing it, 15 stages of water filtration i can just use rainwater if need be for my freshwater (verified with lab tests for water safety) i have my own land and grow as much of my own veggies and herbs as i can. I drive literally one of the least polluting cars in the world (smart fortwo gets an avg of 44MPG is not even a hybrid) and I still try to drive it as little as possible, i use all stainless steel throughout my kitchen (cookware, storage, utensils, plates, bowels, cups) , so everything lasts forever and has no microplastics or pfas.

        I genuinely don’t know what more i could possibly do to reduce my footprint, I went out of my way to live as efficiently as possible and it’s done literally nothing whatsoever for the situation. And people bitch moan complain about even the smallest change to their life. I can’t even convince people to at least try induction over gas stoves. It’s got so much better temperature control than gas, and since it’s literally turning the pan into the heating element it’s like 92% efficient whereas gas is horrendously inefficient since a large amount of heat just barfs out into the room instead of getting to your food. And I’m literally offering people to just fucking have one of mine so it’s not like it’s a cost issue.

        So fuck you, we are doomed and you can’t convince me otherwise

    • Match!!@pawb.social
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      20 days ago

      What if we, and I realize this is heretical to day: try big things and promote lifestyle changes in advance being coerced towards worse ones