I really donât think stalking victims would agree itâs good âblockâ has gone. I understand how it was being abused - itâs frustrating and annoying but not being able to completely block someone on social media is more than that, it can be real-world dangerous. Think domestic violence, custody disputes, abusive parents etc. Social media can be invaluable for at-risk people, but not if they canât block the people putting them at risk.
Stalking victims blocking someone doesnât make them not able to view their posts though, since they can just log out and view them or create a new free account and see them. They need to set their posts to private and not accept follow requests from people that they havenât verified are who they say they are, thatâs the only way.
Iâm not mad and Iâm confused why you think I am?
Personally, I consider lemmy and Reddit to be different from Facebook, Twitter and other social media. You generally donât know any redditors/lemmings irl and in an anonymous forum itâs much easier to stay truly anonymous. On Facebook and I think soon on Twitter, youâre meant to use your real name and in some cases show government ID.
So no, Iâm not mad at Lemmy developers, Iâm not mad at anyone at the moment. But as someone who was stalked (thankfully before social media existed) I am concerned for other victims, particularly as Twitter doesnât have moderators anymore. Even if they reinstated them, moderators can slow to act on such a large platform and they only enforce the rules of the platform - someone just reading your posts isnât breaking any rules, yet they could be using that information to cause you a real-world harm. Thatâs why I think the block feature needs to exist, but it just my opinion. We can have different opinions without arguing.
Yeah I thought that might have been what you were thinking of. I would think that will play part in some further âverifiedâ tick system for the twitter blue subscribers if they ever bring it in.
TBH I wish that on all social media like Twitter/Facebook you were required to prove your identity and have your real name. It would (hopefully) make people a bit more responsible in their actions and stop a lot of the terrible things people write and do.
Neither of our instances let you block users like Twitter used to. Are you going to complain to your admin?
If you think itâs dangerous when Elon does it, but perfectly fine when your admin does it, then it doesnât sound like it the actual feature that matters.
Arguing is against the rules of this community. Iâm going to nuke this whole thread because itâs becoming nasty and thatâs not welcome here either. Please read the rules and make sure you donât break them again or you will be banned. Thank you.
âArguingâ means letting people know how block actually works on Twitter? The post is misleading, and people should know what block actually means in the context of Twitter.
Are you going to tell this to the people calling me an idiot over and over? Thatâs actually hostile, very different than just contributing to the conversation letting people know what the feature actually does.
If you want to ban me, fine, but Iâm calmly informing people. Itâs the reaction Iâve got, from being mass downvoted for giving context, and repeatedly getting name-called that should be seen as the problem.
I warned the person who called you names and deleted their posts. What other people do or say isnât an excuse for you to break the rules, itâs each individualâs responsibility to follow the rules of the community, the instance, and lemmy.
I consider debate/discussions to be civil; people with different opinions participating in respectful conversations. It becomes an argument as soon as someone becomes aggressive, nasty, insulting or just plain unpleasant. That includes arguing for arguments sake and provoking arguments. According to lemmys code of conduct, users should report argumentative comments, then ignore them.
I gave you a soft warning for being argumentative with me with your âare you going to get mad atâ comment you made to me personally earlier. This is your final warning; if you break the rules again you will be permanently banned from this community.
I really donât think stalking victims would agree itâs good âblockâ has gone. I understand how it was being abused - itâs frustrating and annoying but not being able to completely block someone on social media is more than that, it can be real-world dangerous. Think domestic violence, custody disputes, abusive parents etc. Social media can be invaluable for at-risk people, but not if they canât block the people putting them at risk.
Stalking victims blocking someone doesnât make them not able to view their posts though, since they can just log out and view them or create a new free account and see them. They need to set their posts to private and not accept follow requests from people that they havenât verified are who they say they are, thatâs the only way.
If someoneâs stalking users they need to be banned by the mods.
Creating a feature that allows anyone to censor anyone else in a conversation ends up ruining the entire conversation.
Again, lemmy doesnât have this. Are you just as mad at the people developing and operating lemmy servers for this?
Iâm not mad and Iâm confused why you think I am?
Personally, I consider lemmy and Reddit to be different from Facebook, Twitter and other social media. You generally donât know any redditors/lemmings irl and in an anonymous forum itâs much easier to stay truly anonymous. On Facebook and I think soon on Twitter, youâre meant to use your real name and in some cases show government ID.
So no, Iâm not mad at Lemmy developers, Iâm not mad at anyone at the moment. But as someone who was stalked (thankfully before social media existed) I am concerned for other victims, particularly as Twitter doesnât have moderators anymore. Even if they reinstated them, moderators can slow to act on such a large platform and they only enforce the rules of the platform - someone just reading your posts isnât breaking any rules, yet they could be using that information to cause you a real-world harm. Thatâs why I think the block feature needs to exist, but it just my opinion. We can have different opinions without arguing.
Twitter doesnât require real names or any sort of verification btw. Completely anonymous unless you intentionally want to show your real details.
Thanks. I think this is what I might have been thinking of. But yeah, itâs not necessary.
Yeah I thought that might have been what you were thinking of. I would think that will play part in some further âverifiedâ tick system for the twitter blue subscribers if they ever bring it in.
TBH I wish that on all social media like Twitter/Facebook you were required to prove your identity and have your real name. It would (hopefully) make people a bit more responsible in their actions and stop a lot of the terrible things people write and do.
If your Twitter is publicly viewable then blocks do nothing to protect you, because someone could still see your profile by making a new account.
If you just donât want to see harassing posts, mute works for that.
The only people that need a block feature are those trying to censor others
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Neither of our instances let you block users like Twitter used to. Are you going to complain to your admin?
If you think itâs dangerous when Elon does it, but perfectly fine when your admin does it, then it doesnât sound like it the actual feature that matters.
What are you talking about? Why would I complain to an admin? Dangerous when Elon does what?
Youâre a nutcase.
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Arguing is against the rules of this community. Iâm going to nuke this whole thread because itâs becoming nasty and thatâs not welcome here either. Please read the rules and make sure you donât break them again or you will be banned. Thank you.
âArguingâ means letting people know how block actually works on Twitter? The post is misleading, and people should know what block actually means in the context of Twitter.
Are you going to tell this to the people calling me an idiot over and over? Thatâs actually hostile, very different than just contributing to the conversation letting people know what the feature actually does.
If you want to ban me, fine, but Iâm calmly informing people. Itâs the reaction Iâve got, from being mass downvoted for giving context, and repeatedly getting name-called that should be seen as the problem.
I warned the person who called you names and deleted their posts. What other people do or say isnât an excuse for you to break the rules, itâs each individualâs responsibility to follow the rules of the community, the instance, and lemmy.
I consider debate/discussions to be civil; people with different opinions participating in respectful conversations. It becomes an argument as soon as someone becomes aggressive, nasty, insulting or just plain unpleasant. That includes arguing for arguments sake and provoking arguments. According to lemmys code of conduct, users should report argumentative comments, then ignore them.
I gave you a soft warning for being argumentative with me with your âare you going to get mad atâ comment you made to me personally earlier. This is your final warning; if you break the rules again you will be permanently banned from this community.
You must think Iâm someone else.
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