More money in the pockets of entry-level workers sounds great, but Rachel Greszler of the conservative Heritage Foundation argues that such workers, and the economy writ large, are hurt more than helped by increases in the minimum wage.
@wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee posted a CNN article and I commented acknowledging that it seems the source is now allowed here.
2 Days ago:
I posted this article from Fox about Elon, which got removed citing R2 (not sure what about Fox or Elon is viewed as anti-conservative or not pro-conservative, but there ya go).
I then posted this article from CNN, which is a running ticker of election 2024 stories with no specific bias, which also got removed citing R2 even though I added a comment (in line with the other rules of this community)
I made a meta post with no intention besides getting some attention about this perceived double-standard:
I DM’d Wintermute to gain some clarity about why these posts were perceived to have violated R2, with no response other than a community ban.
I’m posting this because I honestly feel the reasons given were complete bullshit. If Wintermute can use CNN as a source, why can’t I? If Fox/Elon stories are not pro-conservative, what is?
The only explanations I can think of are that Wintermute is deleting posts and banning users because he’s overreacting to the article title and getting triggered thinking it’s somehow anti-conservative, and/or he’s just using a BS excuse to kick me out of this community.
I have reached out directly to Wintermute and other mods on this community multiple times requesting explanations so I may make better contributions to this community going forward. As you can see, they’re falling mainly on deaf ears.
Maybe I’m a little trolly sometimes and for that I’m truly sorry, but I really try to adhere to rules for posting because I know how restrictive the rules are and think having these discussions can be valuable for everyone. But even when I follow mod examples they still block/ban me.
How is that anything besides a double-standard?
How does this behavior contribute positively to a community?
How is this behavior classified as anything to rational people besides power-tripping?
Do what you want if you’re the Mod, but if that’s what you have to do to spin the narrative in your head, maybe you’re just wrong and should find inner peace in accepting that. If you really wanted a healthy community here you would welcome this information as a basis for further discussion into our respective views. It’s now painfully clear you don’t.
CNN is allowed under R2 as long as it is pro-conservative or . Talking about Elon and his finances is not pro-conservative, nor is it anti-liberal. There are plenty of other places for you to talk about Elon. The topic isn’t relevant to the spirit of R2.
You also posted that Kamala Harris is not in line with R2.
I have had this conversation with you ad nauseam, and I will not repeat myself constantly. I will delete the offending material and go on with life.
I will repost rule 2 to allow you to read and digest it again.
We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.
As you will note, CNN as a source of information is fine as long as it is pro-conservative. If you think one of the mods will delete it, it is best to post an explanation as to how it is pro-conservative or showing a liberal bias.
That’s exactly my point. He’s just selecting the level of bias that’s acceptable based on the article title and his reaction to it. His response to me indicates as much. For example, that Kamala post wasn’t about Kamala. For the third time, it was a running ticker of election-related stories, some conservative and some not so much, but if Wintermute actually read the comment on my post he would see I acknowledged that and stated my intentions for making such a post.
It seems here that if a post is “not conservative enough”, you risk getting banned. That’s no way to foster an actual community, or encourage good faith discussion.
@HunterOfGunners@wintermute_oregon I am confused as to what this means. He’s sort of a troll, but I’m a free speech stan and don’t think he necessarily deserves to be banned.
@HunterOfGunners@wintermute_oregon I mean TBF that’s literally the point of this community, no? To post conservative stories and watch wokebois rage over them?
@HunterOfGunners It’s literally what happens here. Right wingers post right wing articles, left wingers spazz out in the comment section, rinse and repeat.
Rule 2 sums it up well.
We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.
So no, the point isn’t to watch anyone rage off them but to have a discussion on the topic.
I help mod this one, and then I have another message board I run as well. It leans mostly liberal but with some conservatives. The main difference is that Lemmy people really don’t want a conversation; they want an echo chamber and for everyone to agree with their ideas.
In my other forum, we have discussions for the most part. Sometimes we get a little silly, but we do have some dialogue on the topics.
You claim here to want discussion, but you’re using your own metrics to define if a post is conservative “enough” and leaving the rest of us to figure it out on our own at risk of ban.
So which is it? Do you want a discussion, where beliefs are challenged, arguments are presented and dissent is inevitable, or do you just want a curated list of posts to reinforce your echo chamber? The two are not compatible.
@wintermute_oregon Maybe saying that the rage cycle is “the point” is a bit extreme, but the leftist members of this community can’t really seem to help it lol
Banning bobafuttbucker because he posts when you won’t is a coward’s move. He’s the only one who pretends this is a legitimate community.
Timeline of events, read before it gets deleted:
8 days ago:
2 Days ago:
I’m posting this because I honestly feel the reasons given were complete bullshit. If Wintermute can use CNN as a source, why can’t I? If Fox/Elon stories are not pro-conservative, what is?
The only explanations I can think of are that Wintermute is deleting posts and banning users because he’s overreacting to the article title and getting triggered thinking it’s somehow anti-conservative, and/or he’s just using a BS excuse to kick me out of this community.
I have reached out directly to Wintermute and other mods on this community multiple times requesting explanations so I may make better contributions to this community going forward. As you can see, they’re falling mainly on deaf ears.
Maybe I’m a little trolly sometimes and for that I’m truly sorry, but I really try to adhere to rules for posting because I know how restrictive the rules are and think having these discussions can be valuable for everyone. But even when I follow mod examples they still block/ban me.
How is that anything besides a double-standard?
How does this behavior contribute positively to a community?
How is this behavior classified as anything to rational people besides power-tripping?
Do what you want if you’re the Mod, but if that’s what you have to do to spin the narrative in your head, maybe you’re just wrong and should find inner peace in accepting that. If you really wanted a healthy community here you would welcome this information as a basis for further discussion into our respective views. It’s now painfully clear you don’t.
CNN is allowed under R2 as long as it is pro-conservative or . Talking about Elon and his finances is not pro-conservative, nor is it anti-liberal. There are plenty of other places for you to talk about Elon. The topic isn’t relevant to the spirit of R2.
You also posted that Kamala Harris is not in line with R2.
I have had this conversation with you ad nauseam, and I will not repeat myself constantly. I will delete the offending material and go on with life.
I will repost rule 2 to allow you to read and digest it again.
We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.
As you will note, CNN as a source of information is fine as long as it is pro-conservative. If you think one of the mods will delete it, it is best to post an explanation as to how it is pro-conservative or showing a liberal bias.
… according to wintermute. Maybe it’s not so clear to the rest of us where the boundaries lie.
That’s exactly my point. He’s just selecting the level of bias that’s acceptable based on the article title and his reaction to it. His response to me indicates as much. For example, that Kamala post wasn’t about Kamala. For the third time, it was a running ticker of election-related stories, some conservative and some not so much, but if Wintermute actually read the comment on my post he would see I acknowledged that and stated my intentions for making such a post.
It seems here that if a post is “not conservative enough”, you risk getting banned. That’s no way to foster an actual community, or encourage good faith discussion.
@HunterOfGunners @wintermute_oregon I am confused as to what this means. He’s sort of a troll, but I’m a free speech stan and don’t think he necessarily deserves to be banned.
Thank you @realcaseyrollins, genuinely.
We hardly ever get along but this is sweet of you and I truly appreciate it.
He continuously posted articles in violation of r2. It’s a two day ban to discourage violating rule 2
The echo chamber must remain intact after all.
@HunterOfGunners @wintermute_oregon I mean TBF that’s literally the point of this community, no? To post conservative stories and watch wokebois rage over them?
Do you get the feeling that’s actually happening around here?
@HunterOfGunners It’s literally what happens here. Right wingers post right wing articles, left wingers spazz out in the comment section, rinse and repeat.
Rule 2 sums it up well. We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.
So no, the point isn’t to watch anyone rage off them but to have a discussion on the topic.
I help mod this one, and then I have another message board I run as well. It leans mostly liberal but with some conservatives. The main difference is that Lemmy people really don’t want a conversation; they want an echo chamber and for everyone to agree with their ideas.
In my other forum, we have discussions for the most part. Sometimes we get a little silly, but we do have some dialogue on the topics.
You claim here to want discussion, but you’re using your own metrics to define if a post is conservative “enough” and leaving the rest of us to figure it out on our own at risk of ban.
So which is it? Do you want a discussion, where beliefs are challenged, arguments are presented and dissent is inevitable, or do you just want a curated list of posts to reinforce your echo chamber? The two are not compatible.
@wintermute_oregon Maybe saying that the rage cycle is “the point” is a bit extreme, but the leftist members of this community can’t really seem to help it lol
Then you should either enforce it universally or remove the rule.
There’s a post that’s been up for hours that’s in clear violation. Why is that one ok but mine get removed in minutes?
If it’s a question of bandwidth then get more mods.
If you think something is in violation. Report it and we will look at it. We mainly look at reported content.