• AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    i think the ambiguity is the point

    Gwen is a woman.

    If shes a trans woman, shes still a woman. If shes a biological woman, shes still a woman.

    They dont need to announce her sex assigned at birth, shes a woman either way

    thats how i see it anyway.

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      3 months ago

      just fyi the opposite term for trans woman is cis woman. biological woman isn’t really a thing, and it’s usually used by transphobes so you might unintentionally send terfy signals when you say that. just to be clear I’m not accusing you of anything like that, just trying to help with the terminology.

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        thats good advice thanks

        i dont know any terf signals because i dont talk to those people

        i accidentally run into fascist dog whistles on occasion for the same reason.

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        Ok - help us allies out here for a minute. So a “biological woman” is not appropriate anymore?

        What do we call someone who was born a woman and identifies (I think this is the correct way of saying it?) as being a woman? Or vice versa with a male.

        Cis man? Sounds like a terrible super hero.

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          yes, it is cis man. i don’t think it’s a worse hero than biological woman. i mean, really, your superpower is that you’re not mechanical? pfft.

          mind that i am also just an ally so take it with a grain of salt as i may make mistakes here but here’s what i know:

          biological woman is just not a thing because woman is a social term, not a biological one to begin with. also has a slight undertone of “biological” meaning “real” which we wouldn’t want to perpetuate.

          the technically correct term would probably be “female”, but I don’t think trans men would like to be called either.

          afab / amab (assigned female/male at birth) is more acceptable if needed. so, if a woman is afab she’s cis. if she’s not, then she’s trans.

          just keep in mind that trans isn’t limited to women amab and men afab, as not only is gender a spectrum, but “biological sex” is too. anyway trans is more broad because it basically means your gender being anything different from what’s typically associated with your assigned sex at birth.

          any trans people want to correct me on anything please do so