• John_McMurray@lemmy.caOP
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      3 months ago

      I’m starting to feel like you’re exactly who I had in mind, knows the names of all the logical fallacies but lacks a real understanding of the concepts, just uses them as dismissive magic wands

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        3 months ago

        Ah, then you didn’t get what I was doing with my response.

        The thing about actual fallacies is that they are about flawed logic. If a fallacy is being used, that means the conclusion is not actually warranted by the evidence and logic.

        It says nothing about whether the conclusion is true, just that the path taken to arrive at the conclusion is flawed and not worthy of further consideration.

        So when someone names a fallacy to dismiss what someone is saying, they’re not arguing that the person’s stance is wrong and doesn’t deserve further consideration, they’re arguing that the person’s logic to arrive there is flawed and does not deserve further consideration.

        Slippery slope is a fallacy because it argues that if certain steps are taken, others will inevitably follow that wouldn’t follow if the first steps were never taken.

        So “it’s a slippery slope from playing violent video games to mass murdering your friends and family” is the fallacy; “it’s a slippery slope from taking fentanyl to becoming an addict” is not.

        • John_McMurray@lemmy.caOP
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          3 months ago

          That’s kinda what I mean, often the scenario isn’t a logical fallacy at all, but people who basically misunderstand the concept just bleat it out regardless.