Assuming Trump is legally removed from running for president under the 14th Ammendment, who even can fill his shoes?

All other potential candidates from the GOP Primary Debate are terrible at economics, optics or both. No one seems really electable, so what now? Switching to blue? Not voting at all? Vote third party? Retry Jan6?

From what I see, voting red is just not a solid choice if Trump is gone.

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      It means another violent coup attempt. It’s what fascists do when they’re not popular enough to gain/retain power by legitimate means.

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      I won’t vote blue. Too much racism, to much classism. They want to divide people into groups then make each group fight.

      No thanks.

      I just won’t vote if there isn’t a good candidate but I won’t vote for bigots.

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        Too much racism

        That’s a good joke. Republicans are placing bans on teaching black history, vote to keep confederate statues, have literal neo-nazis on their side, all while waving confederate flags.

        Nothing the democrats could ever do could ever compete with that.

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          It’s not a joke. It’s why I won’t vote for the democrats.

          If you don’t want to talk about conservative politics then why be here ?

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            If you don’t want to talk about conservative politics then why be here ?

            Never said that I didn’t want to talk about conservative politics. This question is a bad faith one.

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              It isn’t bad faith. You made a trolling comment.

              The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.

              I don’t agree with that. I believe people can be successful without a nanny state. I support small government which is a gripe of mine with the current Republican Party.

              I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it. I won’t make that mistake again.

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                You made a trolling comment.

                If by trolling you mean “critical”, then sure, but otherwise no.

                The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.

                Not really. The democrats are a corporate owned, vaguely centrist to right wing party. As for your nanny state worries, those just honestly don’t make sense.

                I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it

                Our political system is intentionally designed to only change slowly. So expecting massive change from 2 single votes is quite frankly ridiculous. And again, democrats are corporate owned, so even when they get in they largely don’t do anything useful.

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                  Just saying joke isn’t critical.

                  I wouldn’t say they’re centrist. They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies. The democrats are just a mess.

                  Both parties are owned by corporations. It’s why I want more parties. I’m not a fan of AOC but she has my respect for telling Amazon to screw off. I feel the same about de Santis and Disney.

                  Companies should not be running the show.

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          The democrats want to divide everyone into victim classes and tell everyone they can’t make it because th deck is stacked against them. It’s learned helplessness.

          Even the leader of the Neo Nazis voted for Biden.

          No thank you. The democrats are just racist and bigots.

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              Doesn’t change he voted for Biden.

              A normal person wouldn’t disavow something. You only do that when people may be confused. Biden has a history of being a racist. So I understand him wanting to pretend to distance himself from Spencer.

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                Doesn’t change he voted for Biden

                As already explained, this is not equivalent.

                A normal person wouldn’t disavow something.

                Yes, they absolutely would, especially when they’re nazis.

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                  No because no reasonable person would associate Nazis and Trump. Not even sure why we are talking about Trump since he’s not really a conservative.

                  What sort of idiot would think Trump who has a Jewish daughter is a Nazi?

                  Biden on the other hand has shown support for the KKK and other white supremacist ideology. I get why he tried to put a block to that one.

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          Have you not read the official DNC website on gun control? They want to disarm us.

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            Are you fucking joking? You’re literally citing a source you haven’t read and trying to give me shit about something you don’t even realize it doesn’t say? Literally the only way the DNC platform says they want to disarm you is if you are a “stalker, abusive partner, or an individual convicted of assault or battery”. Are you saying you’re one of those?

            You need to take a good long look in the mirror and realize you don’t actually want to do what’s right, you just want to be told you’re right for doing what you’re already doing. It’s lazy, selfish, and destructive.

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    I gave $20 to Bill Hurd, but that ship never left harbor let alone got any speed going on. Haley is cool, I could handle her. I think her take on abortion was really fair. I would like it better if the “national 15 week ban” meant that no state could do it tighter than that. Roe actually protected up to 12 weeks, and states could be more aggressive. So a “national 15 week ban / protection” would be less than some states want but certainly more than others do.

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    Desantis seems to be the best choice for the moment. Hes not trump, but better than most.

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        Just adding, de Santis came out strong but then lost his momentum by coming off petty. Polls have shown he’s not doing well. He needs a better strategy but as it stands I won’t vote for him.

        Haley would have my vote but she won’t get the nomination.