• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    And let me just point out the cost of living crisis is entirely artifical. We have enough stuff, the 1%ers just don’t want to share

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      Share what exactly? How do you expect to share a mansion to buy some school uniforms, for example?

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        Mansions don’t fall from the sky, they are built. To build a mansion you have to spend money. If you don’t spend your money on a mansion, you can use it for something else, like school uniforms.

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          Yeah, but the mansion is already there and the money went to the builders. So, what’s your plan exactly? Take the money from the builders?

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              How’s that relevant to my question? It’s not. But I’ll give you the answer, as it seems you’re struggling hard - you can’t split ones wealth. The end.

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                you can’t split ones wealth. The end.

                Yes you can, it’s called tax, and it splits off a fraction of your assets when paid.

                No idea why OP was focussing on mansions, but a property tax would sort that problem. Stick a £2m threshold on it so it only hits the filthy rich. Before you whine about asset rich cash poor; dont care sell it if you can’t pay. People are dying.

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                    Lol. Yes you can. What’s more the absolute best wealth to tax is land/ real estate because it’s really effing hard to hide, and can’t be shifted overseas.

                    You can destroy its value by physically removing the building but the bulk of the value is always in the land, the building itself depreciates.

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                Again. The mansions don’t fall from the sky, they are built. Not every mansion has already been built. Why are you acting like people only buy pre-existing mansions?

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                  What are you talking about? Mmm? I gave you a specific scenario, why are you trying to move goalposts? You lost your argument, just shush now, kid.

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                    You didn’t give any specific example. You just keep repeating “but the mansions are already built”, while mansions are being built right this second. If you want to introduce a specific scenario, you can’t just expect the other person to read your mind, you have to do it.

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        We need more wealth taxes, increased public spending, and wage increases for the public sector and the lowest paid jobs. And we really need to be putting serious effort into introducing some kind of universal income. That’s how you share wealth.

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            Wut?

            I mean I can’t, you’re right, but the government and HMRC can. If the government actually wanted to.

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              Taxing wealth doesn’t work and never did. We have a few thousand years of experience with that.

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                Groan. Western countries have at times used taxes on wealth to enable massive infrastructure development. Straight after WW1 and WW2 almost all Western countries introduced “profit” taxes of 80-90% and increased taxes on the wealthy. It was the only way the UK, for instance, could rebuild after the war and why we have an NHS and used to have a great welfare state.

                I don’t actually believe we should tax the excessively wealthy. I think we should take what they’ve stolen over the centuries back into common democratic ownership.

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                  UK didn’t have wealth taxes post war. Because wealth taxes don’t work. Off you go back to school.