DPRK_Chopra [comrade/them]

If they had just banned me outright I probably would have just created a new account and might even still be there. In the end they probably did me a huge solid.

Dropped it years ago due to their cowardly moderation style. If you don’t want someone on the platform, just fucking ban them. Why bother with a site-wide shadow ban?

Peace? Oh yeah, there can be peace wHEn rUZziA fULLy WiTHDRaWAlS ALl of THEIR oRcS back to moSCOW Maybe don’t invade another sovereign country, how about that POOTLER?!

- the average impotent reddit r/worldnews comment for the past year

We have to appeal to people’s material interests. At least in the imperial core, there’s nothing to offer people right now but dusty theory. Basically, we need to build living situations that are resilient. So that could mean creating communities with like-minded people that can produce their own energy, mitigate heatwaves, resist wildfires and flooding, things like that. Their very valid fear of collapse will drive them to us if we can put material benefits on display.

It’s not a mass movement builder overnight, but it would mitigate a lot of the problems for the people involved and draw a lot of people to our side, especially if we can provide disaster relief.

Basically instead of telling people to eat less meat, which they will never do, we need to change the way we think about it. The better question is what will the world look like if people walk off the cliff and eat every last animal and burn every last drop of oil, because they will do just that. So if that’s true then how do we mitigate the worst outcomes for the most people?

It’s not “my plan” and this is why it’s like taking to a wall with you folks. Crack a goddamn book?

Basically look into the largest socialist projects in history and the resulting gains in things like literacy and life expectancy. Look at what they did and tweak it to be adapted to current conditions.

I’m really done with you now enjoying the last of my long weekend and not wanting to waste the time.

Western chauvanism is one hell of a mental block for you as if other places haven’t already had revs or won’t be more likely to have revs. I sincerely hope you are somehow able to vote really hard and somehow things get better AND youre able to permanently lock in the progressive gains, but to me you sound like a sucker who has never studied history bc that never happens.

You’re right a better world isn’t possible. I bet you’ve also used the “kumbaya” quip and thought you were one of the clever boomers.

I’m not claiming bad faith this conversation is just boring for the same reason I don’t shoot hoops with toddlers lmao.

I’m too fucking bored of this already. It’s the same uninformed spew from you guys every time. I’m not going to even address your uninformed points here, maybe someone else who gives a shit will, idc.

Cuba, China, USSR all saw massive gains in just about every measurable metric post revolution because they adhere to the theory that says you have to work to actively suppress the worst urges of the ownership class, aka the people who destroyed the biosphere and possibly life on earth for short term gains. The liberal rely your probably already wanting to type is to whinge about how these systems still had their flaws, arent perfect utopias, are authoritarian (yes, against capital) etc, but at least they get results and aren’t idealism, but actual application of a rigorous program.

Perhaps you would be more comfortable on a platform like reddit where you don’t have to have your worldview challenged?

This is a childish understanding of the theory you purport to have studied. What’s your concrete proposal to “reestablish democracy away from capital interests” that has actually worked?

I don’t want a dictatorship

We do. It’s called a dictatorship of the proletariat and it’s actually worked.

I hate complexity, that’s why became a total scrumdumpster.

The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.

Do you think the DPRK is a democratic republic?

It’s always the people who understand the least about DPRK who say this stuff. As if you’ve investigated deeply the inner workings of their system and aren’t just going off vibes.

lmao gottem

A couple points:

Ukraine is not doing well even with the combined weight of NATO behind them, despite what cope you might have read on

Even if Russia did suddenly pack it up and leave, there would be an immediate attempted cleansing of ethnic Russians or presumed Russian “collaborators” (anyone they don’t like).

Good.

Honestly it’s amazing to me coming out of the hexbear bubble for the last three years how uninformed westerners actually are about geopolitics. There no reason at all to belive this besides you want it to be true.

Yeah, one lesson I’ve taken from this conflict, is if you ever get conscripted into a modern war, don’t fucking go, because someone in power probably wants you dead. You’ve got russia on one side trying to smash their own domestic fascists and dwindle their numbers (see Wagner in Bahkmut) and you’ve got Ukraine trying to burn through anyone they think might have Russian sympathies. It’s just a shitty situation all around, and of course it usually affects the poorest.

The point remains this is going to go on until the west, or better yet, the people of Ukraine can acknowledge the reality of the situation and muster the phrase “territorial concessions”. Continuing to expend lives on the idea of retaking Crimea is not a path to victory.