People bitch and moan about things–irrespective of forum–because they have both things to bitch and moan about, and the time and energy to spend bitching and moaning. That suggests that things are pretty fucked for them. Sure, there are some people who lie, and their bitching and moaning is for show, but chances are that something is fucked in their lives that they want to do that.
To assume that a forum can be created to channel their bitching and moaning about fucked things away from the public eye implies several things: it is okay for things to be fucked for some people, and those people need to keep their bitching and moaning in line with rules and shit, or else to themselves. Instead of “I don’t like this, so I’ll either not read it, or I’ll downvote it.” That would be far more reasonable
That implication, that people need to keep their bitching and moaning to a certain format, style guide, and location, is pretty fucked up, because it takes the status quo of the current state and insists that it is correct. (Which, it, very clearly, is not.)
Neither you nor anyone on lemmy get to have a private instance that is still a social network open to the wide world to register on, read, and post on. You pick one or the other. Pretending that you can have both is, of course, what makes you (and the admins and mods sweating so hard) a bootlicker to the people and forces insisting that the status quo is fine, and people need to be ‘more civil’ about how they bitch and moan (read: they need to accept that their fucked state is just fine, so they can be fucked over more).
The french revolution was not a good time for anyone. Did it make things better? I dunno, I wasn’t there. But it happened because things were really fucked for a lot of people. Who are you, to look at history, and say “yeah, they did the French Revolution, but in the end I think it made things worse for people, so they should have just stuck around with the boot on their neck instead?” They didn’t know how things work out, they just knew that their current state was untenable, and needed to be changed. Anarchy and violence suck, for everyone, to be sure, but they suck more for the people who benefit most from there not being anarchy or violence. That’s just tautological.
All the other social network alternatives are owned, operated, and moderated by the problem, so obviously any Lemmy instance owners, admins, and mods cowtowing on Lemmy with respect to how the problem wants things handled is… Bootlicking. Yeah. That’s bootlicking.
If it doesn’t literally break the local laws (which were written by and for the problem in many jurisdictions, so that’s another source of fuckery to birch and moan about), then the mods need to calm their shit and moderate… less. Community and instance rules past that are all nice to haves, not must haves, because, and this is important, they were written by some rando preparing to be a real NIMBYist. If the community wants to laud a guy who did murder as the people’s hero, and laud his methods as the methods of the people, and you don’t like that the community is doing that on your hardware, fucking turn that shit off. The mere existence of large instances that draw the majority of discourse does not mean that the community needs to fucking adhere to the guidelines imposed by the instance admins. The instance is there for the community, not the other way around. It means the instance admins are in the position to be fucking public fucking servants. If they don’t want to shell out the money and expertise to be public servants (which, by the way, means serving the public how the public wants to be served), they need to fuck right off. None of this “start your own instance and run it how you want” bullshit while the old instance still exists makes any fucking sense.
When the people in power act in a way that the people see as not in the people’s interest, that’s when the people are fucking pissed off. If that shit applies to governments and health insurance companies (which it clearly fucking does), why do you think it shouldn’t apply to, oh, I don’t know, Lemmy instances and their stewards?
I’ve seen this episode of Black Mirror