But that’s not the topic? I wish MGTOW would just go their own way already instead of pestering everyone with their bullshit.

Where in the study did they wrote that?

Yeah, I don’t know. I feel much more sorry for the girls and women who get hit by that hatred. And they definitely do. Online and sometimes offline as well. I see it in school (in Germany) how some boys as young as 12 already bought into the incel narratives and treat the girls accordingly. This has to be stomped out.

She was an old woman in the democratic party. That’s three things a lot of people on the internet hate. Since most agree she was a politician not fit for her job anymore they can go all out with the insults without getting too much backlash.

I have no idea who this person is, but the vitriol and hatred I see towards the person is extreme online. Especially a lot of sexist slurs like “bitch”, “cunt”, etc.

How are you helping the victims?

Because a lot of the people here never were the victim of a crime and think they never will be. Crime is something that happens “to others”. Especially sex crimes like rape is something people here feel especially apologetic for. Those poor rapists… I wonder why that is.

Rape is always violence.

Which “economic environmental conditions” lead to rape?

What are your thoughts on how to actually prevent crime? What is your plan for the victims? What should happen with the people who have been tortured, raped or killed by the criminals you care so much about? What about the children, parents, friends, loved ones of the victims?

What is your plan on how to protect victims?

Someone who tortures (including rape) or kills other people should not be allowed back into society, in my opinion. We can’t just continue to tell all the victims “Ah well, shit happens!”

But in one case the victim is a person with feelings and in the other case it’s a tree. I find it quite concerning that people seem to struggle to see the difference.

What do you mean? Sorry, I don’t understand how I am moving the goalpost.

Wasn’t the trouble some people had with the drag queen shows the dances? I don’t know the situation in the US(?), but that’s what some people disliked about some of the shows in Germany.

Here is a video of one of these shows that was a program for kindergarden kids: https://youtu.be/p2zsZHb_Y7E?feature=shared

It’s dishonest to leave it out of the discussion when people didn’t have a problem with the clothing in the first place.

I am no pro in pedagogy or whatever. Not sure if that’s super harmful or whatever tale the alt right tried to spin. But it’s definitely not just some people with a cleavage or other types of sexy clothes.

As someone who was in the same shoes as the person you reacted to: I was absolutely repulsed. It’s the main reason why I waited until my late thirties to get a partner for life.

When I got the slightest whiff of the men being with me because he liked that I was short / skinny / childlike that was the end of the relationship. It’s not only superficial, but also highly questionable to find your partner attractive because of these traits.