Hexbear and Lemmygrad, comrades forever!!
Yeah, you have some good points in there. I must have missed some of the drama.
I am so tired of the “anti-tankie” western left bullshit.
Ada took offense to “Death to NATO.” When she was called out on it, she doubled down and said it’s wrong to call for death to the “People of NATO.” Hilarity followed and she got dunked on.
Ohh right hehehe, I forgot about that part
Moreover, 196 is such a shithole vaushite comm, if you block 196 in blahaj.zone it suddenly becomes bearable and nice.
Yeahh, 100 percent
Ohh I see. That sucks :(
Maybe I’m naive and have an over-conciliatory attitude but I think things could’ve worked out for both our instances if it weren’t for that 196 mod and a few other bad actors. Maybe in the future.
If I understand the situation correctly… the issues (besides their userbase) were mainly with the moderator of their 196 community who was on that anti-tankie grindset. There was dialogue between Hexbear’s admins and Ada about smoothing over the issues that developed but she wouldn’t do anything about the 196 mod who was actively stirring up stuff or anything about the users saying horrible things to some of our users. So that’s why we defederated.
How did lemmygrad end up defederated btw?
Yeahh, at least Ada at blahaj (the head admin) seemed nice and wanted us all to get along. I was just arguing with one of the shitjustworks admins about some stupid hostile nonsense. Not only are they not doing damage control, they’re actively making it more toxic.
Hey speaking of goat of shitjustworks, is it widely known that they’re impersonating another fediverse user with completely opposite politics? They’re not even just a user, they’re an admin of a moderately large Mastodon instance. You’d think that would get a ban or something even from lib admins. Unless I’ve been the victim of some kind of psyop or something.
Sorry, posting is primarily not praxis lol
Sure, the revolution will have a “digital component” but I don’t really see the point in being conciliatory to smug closed-minded assholes on one of the most niche social media platforms on the internet. It’s obvious you don’t know anything about Marxism or about how social change is made so you can keep your advice to yourself. We try to keep details about our efforts in the real world vague because we don’t want to be doxxed.
Good luck with that, you’re really making a difference 👏
Yes, I’m sure letting people call us slurs, red fascists, pretending-to-be-LGBT-people, and Chinese/Russian bots on lemmy (the most important social platform, the social platform of the revolution) without any pushback will exert enough social control on them to make them do communism. Our posts will make Marx proud!
What? No one on Hexbear is on it because we think we’re going to “effect real change” on here lol
Maybe you forget how isolated lemmy is in general. Even if we wanted to do that it’s not even possible. This is just our comfortable space in an ocean of online liberalism. We’re happy to discuss politics with people in good faith and it’s great if we can help educate people but pretty much everything important happens in real life, offline. So don’t act surprised when you’re met with mockery because you’ve accused us of betraying communism for not letting the bigots, transphobes, reactionaries, and libs talk down to us and insult us on the Internet in some naive attempt to “convert” them.
Also, we get along fine with most of the fediverse! I’m glad we’re still connected to lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, sdf, etc even though there can be a few bad actors. I’m not sure federating with your instance was a good idea though…
It’s 100% a problem, for multiple reasons. First and foremost, it’s racist, so it’s already inherently a problem for that reason alone.
Nothing is “inherently” anything. What makes, for example, anti-black (as contrary to anti-white) racism bad in spaces like this? It furthers the psychological harm caused by the racist material conditions of white-supremacist society and normalizes these conditions. Racist rhetoric is part of the superstructural justification for these conditions that makes the oppressor feel superior and the oppressed feel inferior and like they deserve it. This contradiction does not exist for white people and that is why anti-white racism effectively does not exist, except maybe beyond a limited level in inter-personal relationships. It might make individual white people feel a little bad but it has no material backing.
But it’s also a problem because your [hexbear’s] moralistic self-righteousness
I’m not the one pearl-clutching over anti-white racism.
combined with your [hexbear’s] obvious hypocrisy gives people opposed to your ideals that much more ammunition (and of course you don’t care about that, but that itself is also part of the hexbear problem).
This issue doesn’t really give anyone “more ammunition” against us. Part of the reason we do keep these kinds of jokes around (besides being funny) is because it tends to out reactionaries (like how you are being right now).
And the worst part is that, as with so many of hexbear’s problems, there’s no reason for it. It’s such an easy problem to fix, and would give an instance like hexbear that supposedly prides itself on its inclusivity such a huge boost in credibility.
I’m pretty sure most of the people making “cracker” jokes on here are white themselves. I don’t think Hexbear is known as the “anti-white” instance lol
And sure, I get the importance of having a place where you can feel comfortable and meme hyperbolically about problems you feel are important, and about the people who don’t agree with you. That seems to be the direction that most hexbears seem to want to go.
Yeah, I mean that’s pretty much what Hexbear is. I don’t think anyone here would want to be “morally-unimpeachable leaders” or even to what end that would be.
Do you think “anti-white racism” is even remotely as bad as other forms of racism? Or even a problem at all? White people already have all the privileges bestowed upon them by a fundamentally white-supremacist society. Making fun of this concept on our tiny social media website isn’t hurting anyone.
Is that an inside joke?
Answering genuinely, yeah it is lol
That being said, what is considered the “political center” varies a lot from place to place, a lot more than just 1930s Catalonia.
Hey, I’m a Hexbear user and I really think you have the wrong impression of what our site is. Idk if you’re open to reconsidering or if you’re just trying to get a few antagonistic words in but I’ll tell you my experience as a long time user:
Being pro Russia
Our site isn’t pro-russia. We just want the war to come to a swift end without any further bloodshed. Some people take offense to that because we don’t think the best way to do that is to send more guns, tanks, planes, dollars, etc into the warzone. That benefits no one except the arms manufacturers and the money lenders. Not regular people on either side.
genocide denialism
The only thing I can think of that you would be referring to is the “holodomor” or something similar that happened in the USSR. It’s not that we deny that many people did die in these horrible tragedies or that there wasn’t Soviet government involvement in some of them but that these very real events are being distorted for political reasons by people who want to paint the USSR in a certain, wholly bad, light. As communists (or anarchists), we try to be very open to criticism and new ways of thinking about or doing things but not when the intent is to do historical revisionism to make the people who liberated the concentration camps and ended the crimes of Nazism seem like Nazis under a different name.
Authoritarianism
Well, I guess this is true in a way. As revolutionists, we do seek to change the system by establishing a new authority with the capability to make this change. But have you ever noticed how the current system maintains and perpetuates itself? Sure, you can vote (and we don’t seek to abolish that!), but when that fails and working-class people take to the streets seeking change, why is it that people with guns and tear gas and riot shields try to stop them and maybe even imprison them? It’s not that leftists are uniquely “authoritarian” but that we want to use that authority for representing regular, working-class people and to bring about a better world where that authority isn’t necessary anymore. Our anarchist users probably have a somewhat different take on this but one of them will have to talk about it lol
being hateful of ideas that don’t conform to their worldview
Sure, there are a lot of ideas that we hate. But isn’t that everyone? I hope we could all agree on hating things like fascism, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc etc. Our users probably feel more strongly about that than most people lol but that’s just cuz a lot of us have been targets of those kinds of ideas. Other than stuff like that though… this site has been one of the most accepting places on the Internet in my experience. Sure, we argue a lot (sometimes too zealously lol), but just cuz we care a lot about getting things right. On our site, we don’t have downvotes to encourage users to actually challenge bad ideas and voice their opinion instead of just feeling satisfied having slightly influenced an algorithm.
racism (just not towards the same people)
This just hasn’t been my experience and I know most of our users would agree. Racism gets swiftly removed on Hexbear and lots of people replying challenging it. Do you have any examples? This has just been so contrary to my time on the site. Unless you mean jokes about white people but I hope I don’t have to explain why that’s not a problem lol
Anyway, I just want our instances and our users to exist together in peace. I know we have very “different” ideas from what is considered the mainstream in the west and on most of the English-speaking internet but I know our presence on the “fediverse” can be a positive thing and that we can get along. I hope this helps you to understand our site a bit better.
Another thing to keep in mind is that imperialism also has the effect of driving down wages in the imperial core since the capitalist can pay their workers less if the price of basic, essential commodities can be decreased by super-exploitation in the imperial periphery. This is a major reason why real wages in the US have been stagnant for a while, for example. So this would have a counterbalancing effect on how much a first-world worker would need to pay proportionally to their income for a case of soda if the process of imperialism were ended.
Thanks for deleting your post. I hope our two communities can live and share in peace. There are certainly some hexbears over here who have been too antagonistic as well as some people here who seem to want to stir things up.
:blahaj-heart: (we have no such emoji on our instance but maybe you do lol)
Or maybe terminal emulation needs to be brought up to speed with modern computing. New terminal specs and all that.
Yeah, I agree. I should have been more clear lol. See my other comment.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I agree with you. I’m not talking about text-based interfaces and commands. I just mean the way Unix/POSIX handles “terminals” (devices that accept streams of characters according to a protocol established in the 70s) is an antiquated way of handling simple plain text streams. It made sense back then when there was a need to send commands to dumb terminals in-band with the plaintext but this doesn’t really make sense these days when your “terminal” is actually just a program pretending to be a dumb terminal running inside a window. When was the last time you used job control instead of opening another window?
Satire or not, it’s still correct lol. Terminals and terminal emulation need to be destroyed. Modern systems with graphics and windowing systems are not VT100s and that’s a good thing.