Fair point

Hahaha, thanks for the reading tip.

The interesting thing in their book is, they acknowledge the end of the road for capitalism/extraction. Technologies like solar, wind, batteries (and recycling thereof) offer a great alternative with near zero marginal costs, they apply the same logic to labor in the form of robotics and AI (of AI I’m still skeptical). If these technologies will be further implemented will undermine incumbent industries. And can replace them entirely with almost free energy and labor. But they do caution that there needs to be a shift from the capitalistic outrol of this tech (as is happening now) to a communal benefit of them. As well a change of private ownership to a new communal model. The potential abundance can make this happen, starting in tech-eco hubs and spread from there. It’s definitly about a techno, system and societal “fix”.

Honestly I get your skepticism and that of other commenters, but as someone who works (and plays) in the sustainability field for a long time now, this book made a lot of sense.

That being said, I will keep on reading a lot of different sources on the subject as well and refine my opinion further.

Thanks for your cynisism, but they do have a lot of free reading as well regarding the topic at RethinkX.com. Besides, realistically book publishing isn’t free yet, so I get they use a paid channel for book readers.

Ignoring the self serving bullshit of the US.This seems so nuts, even all the capitalistic incentives point to renewables plus batteries for the future. Besides who in Eastern Europe wants to change from one energy dictator to the next. I can’t see this being a succes in the long run.

True, but replaceable everything. And as sustainable (environmentally and socially) as smartphones come.

I’ve never seen my former prime-minister been referenced as that :') - most certainly not my political colour, but why CIA pig vermin? He is most certainly a competent manager of the status quo, but as a leader spineless and without a vision (for a better world)

Check out the Fairphone 5

We are still thriving creating great things because we collaborate on a large level. It might not be that communal anymore (unfortunately), but working together is still the key to success (in a system way).

It would be beneficial for all, if we could bring back the communal part - while still holding on to some of the benefits the modern global system has produced. I just always wonder, how do you replace or compete with the ice cold global capitalist systems, that can win most of the time in the short term and just overwhelm any sustainable, communal long term system.

Just a quick reply - haven’t read your sources yet. But I also feel like it works both ways, one’s lack of empathy helps you succeed in a capitalist culture that only has one metric for success, money. Will now start reading ;).

Speaking on the federal level (have less of a view on the local and state level). It was a very flawed democracy, and it’s descending a less and less functioning system as we speak, moving towards some form of fascism/techno feudalism.