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  • Ooh, cherry picking from a Heller lawyer, I’m sure that’s unbiased.

    edit: I liked the part where he mentions the first draft of the Virginia state constitution but not the final draft, but then omits the first draft of the US constitution. Delicious cherries.

    Another one: The use of “bear arms” in an 18th century context almost always meant “in military service.” Scalia even acknowledges this, but says only when used in “bear arms against.”

    But it doesn’t matter. Halbrook points out that the Pennsylvania declaration of independence says: “That the people have a right to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State.” Ok. Why is “in defense of themselves” a specifically enumerated right? Because the term “bear arms” doesn’t apply to self-defense otherwise.

    And self-defense was not the point of the second amendment, the security of a free state was.

    I guess it makes a lot of sense when you just ignore all counterfactual evidence.

    It’s simple. For 220 years, this was not an individual, unlimited right. Then Scalia hand waved away two centuries of precedent and decided the text magically aligned with his activist agenda.




  • Ok, we have now established that I am debating with someone from a different country.

    Wrong. American and from the south, no less. 0 points for you ad hominem attack.

    1. That ban is illegal per the Second Amendment

    Wrong again. The second amendment had nothing to do with gun control until the 20th century.

    It was widely understood to be a collective right to provide for the national defense.

    The NRA actually lobbied in favor of the 1934 NFA. Gangsters with street sweepers is not responsible gun ownership.

    Just because you say something is illegal doesn’t make it so.

    You need to read more.