They did.

It was overall, less active than the Fediverse.

I think you can reasonably blame the lack of features here, honestly. I’m not saying if they had them they would have challenged Reddit, but they’d have been much more active. Community moderators almost certainly lost interest when they realised they had no real control over their community, and the longer the time elapsed with no tools to do so - the more drifted away leaving abandoned communities where AI and bots and trolls move in - compounding it even further.

They also, on day 1 of their community launch, allowed day 1 old accounts to make communities. Even if each account could only moderate 2 communities, that wasn’t smart at all.

You could get your block list from a certified source.

How do you trust this source won’t go sour, down the line?

You only demand answers but never engage by offering your own guesses. By assuming this obtuse, superficial attitude, you defend.

My own guesses? I’m not calling for a complete rewrite of the Lemmy/Piefed system. You are. You clearly don’t like how it works, so why do you remain? Why not join Mirage?

Yes, the block list could be bad. That’s pretty damn obvious. And then there are a dozen obvious ways to combat that.

How so?

You are totally defending the bullshit. You are defending it with low-effort superficiality.

I never defend mod corruption (that you vaguely refer to in your opening post)

They launched without any community mod tools beyond “delete post” for their entire run. The site predictably got overrun as site admins had to bear all the weight.

So it does. I forget I’m an admin so I can see individual mod actions.

Here’s a proposal. Wrap up spam removal with blocking. If a user spams then block him. For convenience, users can trade block lists.

It’s not even just spam but insulting or abusive behaviour. Also, block lists could still be in theory prone to corruption as people who ‘moderate’ it could “block” perfectly reasonable posts that then ripple across to others who have subscribed to said block list.

Well anybody who defends bullshit like you do must surely have a taste for it.

At no point did I defend mod abuse. I just asked for what you think should be done.

There’s no real support for your nostr-type idea. There are platforms like that for what you want. There’s simply no public support for this on Lemmy/Piefed.

No it means that you find a different way to handle spam and nonsense.

If we can’t actually moderate posts at all, what ways do you propose exactly? The Fediverse gets pumped full of spam daily.

I’m thinking that you might have a little kingdom of bullshit all your own.

I’m very hands-off when it comes to moderating.

So you don’t actually want a Reddit like site. Why are you here?

Also this just means every community becomes ful of spam and nonsense and no-one can stop them.

I don’t think the Fediverse does that. I know Lemmy.world obscures moderator identities on the mod-log, but not every instance does this.

How do you design it so a community mod doesn’t ban you for something you have said in another thread?

What design decisions would you suggest the developers implement as to ensure that this can’t happen?

I think it may well be the guy who actually made a ragepost about it at the time tbh

A Reddit-styled site where AI handles community moderator decisions isn’t reddit. Communities aren’t communities, they’re just hashtags.

Indeed, but zero mod tools other than “delete post” 2 months in was genuinely laughable. To be frank, it should’ve launched with proper moderation: delete posts, ban users, sticky posts, filters for post-types etc. This is standard stuff that users shouldn’t even have to haggle for.

If they gave community moderators proper tools to help them here and put up walls - they could’ve mitigated a lot of this.

Many OS here aren’t made by companies. They can all easily just be forked and edited to immediately wave people through any hypothetical age checks, moreover any website could just ignore it and wave everyone through.

I doubt you would even get “the bulk of them”. Again, people are saying “it’s just a yes/no tickbox bro”. For now. You cannot be naive enough to think it won’t change. And the absurdity of it too. Forcing something someone may program for fun to have a specific feature.

Trying to get every site that offers mixed content, or could do so to implement recognition of all of this is herding cats. It’s completely impossible without a walled internet. Moreover, there’s just no way a OS asking if you’re 18 is going to be accepted. It just isn’t. The expectation will be that they verify your age properly.

It’s not just a privacy issue. Regulatory capture is a problem too. It encumbers small services to the point where they can’t afford to exist, and the only winners are the walled gardens. And it’s also logistically an impossible thing to attempt to regulate at scale.