Huh. Odd timing from both of us. I haven’t been on /r/meirl in a year at this point. I’ve just got a pathetic amount of images stored…

Ratio says otherwise. You are getting hammered with downvotes because you can’t grasp the simple concept that I put forward.

Yeah, and quick thing, but how do we go about getting rid of those they again?

Oh yeah…

By being an educated voter.

I can be angry at ‘them’ all I want. I am. But I can be equally as frustrated with the infinite amount of fools who buy into that propaganda and think nothing more of it. I am not going to remove blame from idiots simply because they were swayed by propaganda from one side. They are still idiots who didn’t educate themselves, didn’t go further in and entrenched themselves in stupidity. Never thinking for themselves.

I am done with this circular logic of “No, don’t blame the people who aren’t doing the literal ONE FUCKING THING that they have within their power to do! Blame someone else!” Equally as done with this conversation.

It literally does. Your reading comprehension skills are not my problem.

Fair point <3

By that (horrible) logic, every single meme to exist that is about anything social at all is a shit meme.

Just a heads up, but pretty much everything in society is a social concept. The clue is kind of in the name.

Yes. This is true. Do you know how you effect those social movements in the government?

By voting.

You cannot argue that you are trying to participate in a social change of government by not engaging in that system of government. It is what is there. If you want to change it, you either need a full on revolution or active social change effected through voting in of various representatives that actually represent you and are willing to change those laws. True, you cannot fall to electoral fetishism, but that doesn’t mean to just ignore it entirely.

So. Once again, I am blaming the voters which is an accurate blame to place. Why? Because they are uneducated, hostile, or hateful. They do not engage in the voting system, they engage in spectacle. Whether that be by posting random comments like this Index person who is blatantly a Russian or by throwing a hissy fit but not doing anything.

The reason this cycle keeps continuing is because voters do not educate themselves and vote for their best interests. It is just as simple as that. Straight up. It isn’t complex. There isn’t some massive conspiracy. People just do not bother.

As said, you have no say in this conversation.

See previous comment.

You don’t vote? You don’t get to have a say in the conversation. You have willingly silenced yourself for the next 4 years. So sad for you.

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance.

And how do you fix that?

VOTE.

My blame is accurately placed.

So lemme get this straight. The Democrats are the Nazis here, not the people literally throwing up a seig heil?

You really have no say in this conversation.

And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.

See previous message.

I will say that the Democratic Party is not doing enough. They’re fucking confirming positions and going with the flow. The leadership is failing and needs to wake up but there is a lot they can do within the legal system. The Nazis, when they took over, did everything legally at first. People need to push back but there’s just… no pushback. AOC is screaming and actually getting stuff done to an extent but so few other people are. The leader of the Dems in the house tweeted basically “Jesus take the wheel” which isn’t a GREAT stance.

The patriotism is what put them in this mess but the voting blocs are what is killing them. The United States had no business being the country that it is. It overextended its reach to an absurd extent. It tried to captiulate to too many people who all wanted to share in the nationlistic nonsense that America pumps out daily. Now the country is fragmented to hell. Too many people feel like that the country doesn’t represent them in anyway while also insisting that the United States should be another way. So they rally around two voting blocs that diverge and don’t represent really anyone because they’re either like the Democrats and spreading themselves too thin while making no one happy or the Republicans who actively ignore what their voters want the second they have power.

The country is schizophrenic.

I wasn’t going to accuse you of not doing your part. I was going to accuse you of being uneducated, like everyone else. You are basically saying to beat fascism you need to use fascism and like… nah. Let’s not go about that, thanks.

Genocide Joe

And you have dismissed yourself from the conversation of adults. Thanks for that.

Y’all keep screaming about how he’s Genocide Joe for sending bombs to Israel. It just demonstrates how much Propaganda you’ve eaten for breakfast. Biden had no choice. Congress approved the weapons transfer. When Trump tried to stop military support to Ukraine, he was impeached. Apparently you didn’t bother to pick that up on your quest for screaming into the void.

Try actually educating yourself on how politics works instead of focusing on politically charged TikToks that are just angry about the situation. You haven’t learned anything. You’ve just absorbed propaganda.

Congratulations. You’re a useful idiot.

List the ways in which Democrats actively supported genocide. Go ahead.

Yup. It is incredible at how deeply they’ve fallen for propaganda. Like Joe Biden being the one to send bombs like he personally wrapped the package. No one is blaming Congress, the people who actually approved the transfer of weapons. Nah. They wanna blame the President for not illegally stopping a transfer and opening himself up for impeachment like Trump did.

These people have no understanding of the US political system. They just scream and cry because they saw a few Youtube Shorts or TikToks and think they’re suddenly educated. That they can blame the figurehead for everything.

It is insane. Biden was the most progressive President the United States has had in decades and every single fuckwit bought the propaganda that the Right Wing was pushing. Was he perfect? God no. But he was miles better than Obama was but nah. Lets just scream about how awful he is because his hands were tied on Israel/Palestine, a problem that has absolutely no answer that doesn’t rip the fabric of someones world.

Children.

Thank you for conclusively proving you have literally no idea what you’re talking about. You are what is wrong with America. You are not educated.

“Genocide Joe” wasn’t able to stop sending bombs. When Trump stopped sending military aid to Ukraine he was impeached. Why? Because it is illegal to impede a congressional approval. It was congress that approved the weapons to Israel. Biden had literally no choice. The most he could do, which he did, was stop the bombs from being sent for longer and longer periods. Put them in areas where they had to be inspected because it was the only thing he could do. Slow it down.

And here you are screaming that he should have stopped sending anything, concretely proving that you have fallen for every scrap of propaganda.

Congratulations. You’re a useful idiot.

Nope. It is dead correct. If you were eligible to vote and you did not vote then you should feel horrible. You should feel attacked. You should feel like everyone hates you. They do. You decided that fascism wasn’t important enough to vote against. You decided to go “Well both sides suck” when one side was actively planning genocide and destruction of the United States.

You do not get to have a say. Why? Because you didn’t vote. You decided not to use your voice so guess what? You don’t get to have one here.