Maybe she can flourish into a more helpful person now.

I can see you have a pretty childish understanding of geopolitics. I think if you recontextualize the US’s involvement with Israel to that of the west’s settler colonial project in the middle east, the actions and defenses start to make more sense. For example you might understand that us giving them 70% of their imported munitions and defending them at the UN, while they start wars and destabilize the region isn’t some confusing fluke behavior, it is how the US functions as world police.

Or to quote Biden,

Were there not an Israel the USA would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.

Past that, your replies are getting increasingly scattered and manic, and I am not interested in engaging with this.

Weird to come back to this reply when the other already talks about the failures of democrats and the problems it causes locally.

But the middle east isn’t on us, other than the fact that we continue to meddle in it.

If I keep reloading the school shooter’s gun, the dead kids are on me too.

But I’m more worried about shit happening here… We can’t solve the world’s problems until we fix ours first… I have lots of empathy…for people here dying because of lack of healthcare, for victims of right-wing fascism in the US…

That’s really great… that you have lots of empathy… maybe you should direct that into action and do something about the failures of democrats that cause right wing fascists to win elections.

We can’t be the world police until we fix our own house. That has to happen FIRST.

Why the fuck do you think the US should be the world police?

Taking your ball and going home when you don’t get what you want sounds functionally identical to a temper tantrum to me. I care about the raise of fascism, so even when things don’t go my way or I wish voters would fucking think, I don’t give up because that’s only less useful.

It wasn’t single issue voting though. It was the constant narrative that this is as good as it can be, and that no one is going to help; that the people have no say, and the only mistakes made were not having a republican in the cabinet. It’s that after the protests of 2020 trying to hold cops accountable, we get an old segregationist and a cop for the candidates. After the years of crying over splitting families we only ever increase funding to ICE. That after the supreme court leaked their overturn of Row, democrats did nothing but fundraise. Healthcare, housing, schooling, childcare, food, transportation, all ballooning in costs, cutting any covid protections that existed. It’s the constant story that the only thing the democrats can offer is that it will be worse under Trump. They are right, it was obvious it was/is worse under Trump, but when all those issues are piling on people, it’s not surprising that enough also think “maybe it’s time to let the evil win” to see what happens.

Given that, the solution isn’t to shame voters, it’s to build power people can believe in.

Maybe you could ride this emotion into a shred of empathy and imagine yourself being a Palestinian who had 20+ family members killed under Biden, watched the DNC attendees cover their ears when faced with the government they support, watched your close friends tear gassed and arrested for begging your school to stop giving money to the slaughter of your family; then after no primary, no voice at the DNC, and a cheered promise of the most lethal military in the world, you’re insulted for having a “pet project” that is over shadowed by the ‘real’ evil.

America is evil when democrats are in power too, and if you want to throw a tantrum instead of be productive, I can’t stop you. But maybe you should realize there are people that have been at this fight longer than we’ve been alive and are trying more than just voting.

I vote down ballot every election, I am not who you need to convince. I am explaining to you that, as we saw in 24, when people don’t feel heard they don’t show up. You can take another stab at corporate dems trying to vote shame enough people into showing up, or you can learn from the past and realize shame doesn’t motivate votes.

I just don’t feel confident that it was the propaganda of the right suppressing liberal interest, and not the authentic apathy of people not finding democracy in the democratic party.

Step 1 has to be the elimination of MAGA…

I also don’t feel confident the current for of the democratic party is equipped for this, and I think not pushing them to do better is how we went from Biden to Trump 2.

ok?

Do you recognize that many women would see it as unnecessarily sexist? That you could have just as easily used any similar ungendered insult and not hurt those that find it makes them uncomfortable?

I didn’t start this saying you or the comment were sexist, I started letting you know some folks might feel hurt by it. With this constant defense the question continues to be, why is it more important to you specifically that you use this specific insult even if others are bothered by it?

Like genuinely, why doesn’t it matter to you that it hurts other people’s feelings? And why is it so important that you say it on a public forum?

I guess I would have to cite Mr. Rogers et al. on the benefits of basic kindness towards your fellow humans. Would you say the same for the N word?

Regardless of my personal take on why this stood out as particularly sexist, why is this particular insult so important that it’s worth being hurtful to those it might more meaningfully impact?

I did. I am saying you feel that you using this specific insult is more important to you than the downside of making an environment that many women feel is uncomfortable and sexist. I don’t care if you personally find it sexist or not.

Why is this insult more important to you than making an environment that would make many women uncomfortable and find sexist?

Yes, because that was an incredible dumb thing to say…

She’s not here, I am not protecting her, I am saying you’re being sexist and I asked why it’s more important to you that you insult someone that will never see it in ways that can hurt those that will and you said I am protecting her.

Seems you don’t want to answer the question. Why is is it important to you to be sexist in insulting this woman?

Not the smartest one are ya?

edgy

None of which carry the same sexist history or impact. Why is invoking sexism warranted and why is it more important to you than making lemmy a less sexist space?

I am aware, and it is stupid.

You’re still being sexist. If you don’t want to be sexist, and want to reduce the sexism on lemmy, you could just describe it any other way.

She’s fucking stupid.

She’s a childish piece of shit.

This stupid fuck could have killed someone.

Like why are you so tied to this word, and why is that more important to you than the bigotry it carries?

I mean she’s clearly an idiot and in the wrong, but that’s a pretty hard b.

What does it rhyme with in your accent?

Well it’s nice of them to get weekends off at least.