I’m not saying I’m not frequently disappointed in them - but demanding perfection immediately seems to work even less well.

And as for “stopping Iran” i know there’s a bunch of plans that don’t involve random school bombings, which just speaks to the derangement and incompetence of the people who supposedly won the election. We would have had better than that. By a lot. The world would have had better.

In Cuba Literacy, maternal survival, and life expectancy are all better than the USA even after getting collectively punished by the USA for over 6 decades.

Wow that’s something for less than half the population of Florida. Good for them. That communist thing really working out then. Glad to hear it.

They also have a much lower wealth disparity than the US.

I’ll bet! Just barely being edged out in the GDP rankings by Uruguay and slightly ahead of El Salvador. “Wealth in Cuba is concentrated among a small elite, with estimates suggesting that about 1% of the population holds significant wealth, including luxury items and modern amenities. The majority of Cubans face economic challenges, with many living below the poverty line despite the government’s claims of low poverty rates.”

But no, you’re probably right on account of your reasonable approach.

So you bring up a list of topics leftist absolutely wipe the floor of Democrats with.

Oh yeah, totes bro. Leftists have passed so many bills, you guys. Billions of dollars in funding for leftist goals, millions of proletariats supported, as spearheaded by the leftists in office in leftist imaginations. Puts Democrats to shame as far as made up accomplishments go. Hey that’s what a state news agency is for, baby!

Yes, ignore the further proof that voters lack authority to impact change necessary in the world.

As a - whatever flava of leftist you supposedly support, you should know who has authority but I guess they don’t let y’all vote that often then anyway huh.

So you’re okay with signing your name on bombs so long as it’s the practical decision to keep you comfy.

How the fuck did you get there? Jeez you’re like open mic night at the sad lefty club.

Destined to support capitalism? I didn’t support it in 2024 and I don’t support them now.

Ah, living off the land eh? Got your little keyboard made out of mushrooms and an internet connection through the call of the wild do ya. That’s super. Hey while you’re lying to yourself and everyone else why not throw in that you made the world a better place by allowing trump to win. I mean, why not, right?

It was supposed to say Disco Stud but I ran out of bedazzlers

You mean the glorious struggle?

What a fuckup

I don’t even like USAID because they so frequently use it to smuggle guns

I have heard that too and that needs to be stopped wherever it may have been the case. It’s not perfect.

I guess maybe, but I think it’s more likely she just actually was hawkish on Iran.

I think Iran is a bugaboo that candidates have to posture on. They said the same about Hilary. I think saying, in a campaign speech, “I’m tough on Iran” is a world away from actually fucking up the way trump is doing this very minute.

And as for trump and Gaza have you seen this? That he shared and is proud of? Harris would not have had anything to do with that, i think it’s safe to say.

federal land they claimed they wouldn’t drill on that was drilled on.

What land was that?

You should probably look at the civil rights voting records. More democrats in number and ratio were against civil rights legislation than even fuckin republicans.

The fact that you confidently lay that out and obviously don’t know why that is speaks volumes about your political acuity.

Please compare education quality increases in Cuba and China compared with its decline in the US. Economic quality.

Oh here we go. Yes do tell how Cuba and China are beacons for us all.

know that I’m not a republican

Yeah, I didn’t . . . think that at all.

Electors are appointed, not elected.

Correct! Five points.

you are defending white supremacist and imperialist systems.

The fuck i am. I’m saying there’s a practical path to a better world and it’s not that complicated. Individuals stand in the way, but that’s why supporting a larger movement is a good thing.

You don’t want democrats to get better because you are a white supremacist and use Republicans as an excuse to justify your own fucked up desires for your supremacy in this world.

You’re completely delusional and destined to support the very systems you claim to hate so much. Like you did in 2024.

So 7 of the 10 are training, 1 is the cameras and the other 2 are just saying follow the law so great demands.

Apology accepted

Which as you pointed out earlier is also due to the bill they voted through so not really helping case.

The funding bill specified none of that, nor would it. (Although, yeah it should have. Crushing norms like trump does means a ridiculous escalation in bureaucracy unless we want to leave it open like that.)

Again not at all relevant with newsom who isn’t running in the midterms. If anything hes the one hurting the cause as he is terrible and keeps being in the public eye as the current top dem in the wings

Yeah. Wait, what cause?

Do you even know what leftist interests are?

well if it’s not environmental health, civil rights, education, and economic equity then they can GTFO. If it is, why are they voting against it?

your interests which are more closely aligned with fascists

Sure, comrade. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.

The electors do that technically, not voters.

Do they? Who authorizes the electors? (Technically it’s the party, isn’t it. Which proves how much good faith you have in this discussion)

Cool, so voters get to choose the face of our abusers

I don’t know what happened to you but that’s a really weird way to put it.

Vibes-based political opinion presented as humor.

I don’t see the vibe, but i’ll allow it.

I’ll still be fighting for something better because I’m not a white supremacist.

No, you’re a reactionary idealist relegated to the role of watching everything turning to shit and wondering why. How will you be “still” “fighting for something better”? Shitting on practical options and accusing random people of being white supremacists? Cool. Looks like it’s working great. Your fighting is top notch. Maybe you can yell at a gas station attendant, y’know, to strike a blow against imperial colonialism.

That sounds about right, actually. Will anyone punish the corrupt nazis in office though?

And yeah cutting off USAID is horrifying. I don’t think the scale is the same as the genocide in palestine

You should probably read this: https://www.cgdev.org/blog/update-lives-lost-usaid-cuts

It says somewhere between 5-10x the amount of lives lost. Obviously there are differences. But sheer number of deaths, the USAID cuts are way worse.

I’m also not convinced Harris wouldn’t have us invading Iran all the same; she was extremely hawkish on Iran. Just go look at what she was saying in 2024.

No. Obama worked hard to get a treaty that trump destroyed immediately. She would try to get back on that track. And, point of order, she’s not a goddamned idiot like our demented rapist, or surrounded by sycophantic nazis.

I also don’t see any reason to think Palestinians would have been better off under Harris. Biden gave way more to Israel than Trump has

I disagree entirely, but it’s a big discussion. The quick points are Biden’s private disagreements with Bibi and attempts to prevent arms sales that the republicans intentionally overrode; and the demented rapist’s carte blanche for Bibi and Pooty-poot. Coagulating into his owning “beautiful beachfront resort property”. It’s just worlds away from competent, adult foreign policy. And I’m sorry that’s not staggeringly clear.

As I said, i don’ think voting for the democrats wouldn’t have helped either, so I’d rather try for the option that has a chance.

I mean, I agree with the option that has a chance part. I just disagree entirely on which had the chance.

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https://dailyfreepress.com/11/23/23/216735/not-endorsing-chi-osse-is-a-worrying-sign-for-the-zohran-mayoralty-and-anti-blackness-within-the-ny-dsa-the-dissenting-opinion/

Okay. So what’s the plan?

Do nothing? (y/n): _

• doesn’t know who Newsom is other than his meming

I can read. So. Good one.

• claims to like AOC but worries she cant win because she’s a woman

Has that not occurred to you? Here. You should probably realize that other people are involved in deciding your country’s future. Take your time.

• complains that everyone else is just being cynically picky for taking issue with candidates actual policy positions

Cynically picky? Ha! What bullshit.

• claims the title of liberal for “”““progressives””“”

What

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Glad you love the status quo! Because you’re going to get more of it then.

If you actually think [Democratic Representative] is a fascist, then you’re an idiot. Do they make bad decisions? Sometimes! Are they supporting capitalism? Usually! Is it better than republican actual-no-shit-irl fascism? YES. 10,000%. But if you’re stuck so far up your own ism that you can’t be arsed to defeat republicans, and there’s not another party for 3000 miles then - settle in. You’ll get more of this.

Which is what we told you 18 months ago and you shit on it then too. And the ensuing carnage hasn’t changed your mind at all.

All of whom are up for reelection in November.

Let’s just treat him like he knows a goddamned thing. Sure.

Just means they haven’t marinated long enough in the propaganda.

And yet they still support him.

Cult.

Cult