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  • Right wing does not argue in good faith. I’m reminded of that Sartre quote

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.





  • I know a gay couple that are pretty right leaning, but they learned a long time ago that their own people don’t accept different opinions so they just play pretend whenever they go out into the LGBT spaces and they are their normal Republican selves at home or with their right leaning buddies.

    It is extremely misleading to characterize this as “different opinions”. The republican party is extremely hostile to queer people. We’re not talking about like “i like pop-punk and you like 90s-r&b”.

    Also if people really are lying about their beliefs so hard, that’s fucked up. Most of us learn that lying is bad in early childhood.

    I’m not even conservative and I learned to shut up and play pretend for the short time I went to college because questioning the professor or showing you don’t go a long with the narrative is a great way to get targeted by the teachers and other students.

    I feel like there’s a lot of detail missing here. Yeah, if you were saying like “I just don’t think gay stuff is natural” other people might have said mean things to you, but that would’ve been because you had a shitty opinion. Most right wing views are absolute dog shit, so it’s not surprising people would target them. You wouldn’t be persecuted for “going against the narrative”, you’d be derided for having bad ideas.

    For the record very few people on the right actually believe women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Most of them say it as a joke because they know how much it rubs certain people the wrong way. It’s kinda like the guys that complain (jokingly) to their wives that they need to get back in the kitchen and make them a sandwich. Yeah some of them actually mean it and fuck those people, but the grand majority do not view women that way at all.

    “I was just joking” is a common top-of-the-funnel for horrors. Explain why it’s funny to make jokes like “women belong in the kitchen” or “well we all know black people are [negative stereotype of your choice]”.

    I’ve had several women tell me about how they’d have a date or two with a guy who’d said he was “liberal” or “moderate”, but it quickly became apparent he had horrible views about the world.

    To your larger point, there may be people who pretend to be left-wing but secretly hold shitty beliefs, but those people are bad people.

    And it sounds like you just want to feel persecuted by people for “going against the narrative” and don’t want to accept that right wing beliefs are, i repeat, dog shit, and make for a worse world.










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    Laws only matter if they are enforced.

    The right wing doesn’t care about law or consistency. They care about in-groups to protect and out groups to bind.

    If “how do treat strangers” is a viable metric for assessing if someone is a good person or not, the the right wing are not good people.