How about this, why doesn’t it mention the October 28th 2013 terrorist attack? https://baike.baidu.com/item/10·28暴力恐怖袭击案/12022667

On 1989 Political Disturbance: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1252700

I think you might be conflating the party and government, as the internal workings of a party is limited to its party members, but the government consists of more than just the party, especially in China’s multi-party cooperation system.

Some short 1~2 min videos from CGTN:

• How does political consultation work in China?
• How does China’s political system work?
• Who has more say: the CPC’s Central Committee or the State Council?
• What is the CPC National Congress?
• How are the delegates to the CPC National Congress elected?
• ​How does the CPC elect its leaders?
• How is the CPC National Congress different from the Two Sessions?
• How does the CPC engage with its members?
• How are Chinese leaders elected?
• China’s Two Sessions: How deputies are elected to people’s congresses
• What are the functions of National People’s Congress?
• How do NPC deputies perform their duties?

Interactive guide - Who Runs the CPC: An introduction

Longer 30 min documentary: People’s democracy – How does ‘whole-process people’s democracy’ work in China?

From “Press conference on successful implementation of ‘one country, two systems’ in Hong Kong and Macao since the 18th CPC National Congress”: http://english.scio.gov.cn/pressroom/2022-11/06/content_78504624_9.htm

Thank you, a question from Bloomberg. If a decision to extend “one country, two systems” past 2047 in Hong Kong was made, what would such an extension mean for Hong Kong’s future? Thank you.

Thank you very much for your question. Unswervingly, comprehensively, and accurately implementing “one country, two systems” is China’s unchanging policy. On July 1 this year, in his address at the meeting celebrating the 25th anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to the motherland, General Secretary Xi Jinping clearly announced to the world, “There is no reason for us to change such a good policy, and we must adhere to it in the long run!” If Hong Kong, Macao, and the international community had any doubts in this regard before, this speech by the general secretary on July 1 gave the final word, and all those worries and discussions no longer persist.

Now this doesn’t mean that the overall policy won’t change over the next couple of decades, but I think it’s more realistic for the transition to socialism to occur from within Hong Kong and Macao and not through intervention from the central government.

For reference: Xi Jinping’s address at the meeting celebrating the 25th anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to the motherland and the inaugural ceremony of the sixth-term government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region http://www.china.org.cn/chinese/2022-07/04/content_78303693.htm

You can try SWAPO’s website: www.swapoparty.org.na/index.php/document-publications, might be slightly outdated but it does include the 2018 changes to their party constitution by adding “socialism with Namibian characteristics”.

四年自然灾害

I think you counted one more year, it’s three years unless you’re referring to something else. 三年困难时期 or 三年自然灾害.

No need to waste time when you see someone mention these three events together:

Famine, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution.

It’s the Chinese liberal equivalent of that “TIANANMEN MASSACRE. ORGAN HARVESTING. UYGUR GENOCIDE” trope.

(Hint: It’s aimed at Mao Zedong and the CPC)

Sorry I got heated up after reading the article you linked, the strong words are directed at that. I personally wish the Cultural Revolution had succeeded but alas here we are.

There will always be the risk of reactionaries sneaking into the party and climbing up to the higher ranks, or former comrades turning corrupt and endangering the the socialist cause. But that doesn’t mean we should destabilize the country just to deal with them, that only helps the reactionaries further their cause.

What everyone should learn from the Cultural Revolution is how NOT to handle internal contradictions.

This is the second time I’m seeing the Cultural Revolution put in a good light in this post, get off your high horses you naive idealists!

The Cultural Revolution was hijacked by ultras, Lin Biao tried to assassinate Mao.

This is the Constitution of the CPC in 1969: https://fuwu.12371.cn/2014/12/24/ARTI1419387596442272.shtml, it includes this paragraph in the preamble:

林彪同志一贯高举毛泽东思想伟大红旗，最忠诚、最坚定地执行和捍卫毛泽东同志的无产阶级革命路线。林彪同志是毛泽东同志的亲密战友和接班人。

(DeepL translation) Comrade Lin Biao has consistently held high the great red flag of Mao Zedong Thought and has most faithfully and resolutely implemented and defended the proletarian revolutionary line of Comrade Mao Zedong. Comrade Lin Biao is Comrade Mao Zedong’s close comrade-in-arms and successor.

Utterly disgusting.

I reread my comment and fixed a mistake for the 1964 statistic, it turned out to be 32.3% because I mixed up the denominator and used the population number from 1982 when calculating for 1964.

From Amazon it looks like the book is written in English and Han Dongping “teaches history and political science at Warren Wilson College in North Carolina. Han comes from a rural background in China. ” Now that doesn’t sound like something I would waste time reading as a Chinese. But I found a PDF of it on http://www.socialiststories.com/en/writers/Han-Dongping/ so I might read it.

I’d be wary of anyone who tries to glorify the Cultural Revolution.

For example, the point about literacy rates:

From China’s second census in 1964, 233,267,947 out of 723,070,269 people over the age of 13 were illiterate, that’s 32.3%.

From China’s third census in 1982, 235,820,002 out of 1,031,882,511 people over the age of 12 were illiterate or semi illiterate, that’s 22.9%.

Note that these two statistics aren’t referring to the same thing, so the report for the third census in 1982 also mentions that the percentage of people that were illiterate and semi illiterate went down from 38.1％ in 1964 to 23.5% in 1982.

Side note: I found a site that’s supposedly “The voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA” https://revcom.us/a/174/dongping_han-en.html that mentions this book, and what do I find?

But after Mao died in 1976, top leaders in the Communist Party, headed by Deng Xiaoping, carried out a reactionary coup.

Others have mentioned China’s non-interference policy, I’d like to add that I think the only way for China to get more involved is through the UN, that means the Security Council or Peacekeeping or some other UN organization.

Thanks for the ping @GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml .

Chinese in China here, I think a better question than “Do you support your government” would be: “If the US government were to replace the CPC and current government tomorrow, would you approve?” Sorry to folks in Nordic countries (another stereotype propelled by liberals) because the US is the “beacon” that liberals use mainly.

If people from any country have no experience with living in other countries, they might be more inclined to topple their own government if their living conditions aren’t great and someone were to advocate for the toppling. Even if people read about how bad some foreign governments are in the news, some people would just brush it off as “propaganda”, they would have to see it for themselves to believe. This goes both ways for both the people of the US and China.

Comparison is a powerful tool, but some people whip out the “whataboutism” card when you try to do that, they tell you to address the problem instead of finding worse examples from other places. Indeed it’s always better to address the problem at hand, but people who scream “whataboutism” in relation to China’s issues are really saying “don’t look at worse places to make yourself feel good, overthrow the SEE-SEE-PEE regime now!”

Do I support the CPC and Chinese government? Yes and yes.

Does China have problems. Yes.

Do I need to hear from egotistical maniacs in other countries on how to handle issues in my country? No.

小时 means “hour”, so in this case it means hourly. I use minimum wage as a baseline, but you can compare using per capita disposable income instead (English data source: http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/202301/t20230118_1892303.html). Yes most people who’ve been to any form of university are expected to earn more than just minimum wage.

The cost of courses in public schools varies by region and is set by the local government, I would say 4000 RMB/year is a safe estimate on the minimum fee.

Students can also apply for student loans in China. I’m not familiar with the topic but here’s a short news article from 2021 that covers the basics: http://english.scio.gov.cn/pressroom/2021-09/15/content_77753922.htm

Undergraduate students can apply for a maximum of 12,000 yuan ($1,860) in loans per person each year

The loans should be mainly used to cover tuition and accommodation, and any extra money can be used for daily expenses

Students do not need to pay the principal or interest while they are still in college and can apply for a five-year probation period after graduation, during which they only pay the interest

Student loans are part of China’s financial aid package to help college students. Other assistance includes scholarships, subsidies and tuition fee waivers

Different forms of financial aid to college students totaled 124 billion yuan last year, benefiting 36.7 million students

Note that the last line I quoted mentions 36.7 million students, I’m pretty sure that includes students from all previous years since the total number of students in undergraduate and graduate schools currently amount to 40 million.

As for whether higher education is “affordable” in the general sense, here’s a quote from the same article:

No college student should drop out of school due to financial difficulties and enabling all students to change their destinies and realize their dreams through education affects millions of households, national development and the future of the Chinese nation

As an example, for the top 2 prestigious universities in China, Tsinghua University and Beijing University, most courses cost 5000 RMB/year and dormitories cost around 1000 RMB/year, which adds up to 24,000 RMB for a 4-year course.

To put that into perspective, here’s a list of the minimum wage for all regions in China (Chinese text): http://www.mohrss.gov.cn/SYrlzyhshbzb/laodongguanxi_/fwyd/202307/t20230703_502349.html. They range from 1420 RMB to 2690 RMB, so the total cost of 24,000 RMB will require 9 to 17 months of minimum wage income depending on the region.

Sorry I got the impression that you meant trolls and bots hiding their real location to avoid law enforcement, because normal users can’t tell either way.

Using a VPN or other methods to hide your IP address will only delay tracking efforts, and throwaway accounts are not a thing in China with real-name verification, though there is a similar problem with personal information being stolen to register accounts, and selling your verified account for profit.

If a person is in China and tries to use a VPN/proxy based overseas to hide their real IP, they would have to add an additional layer of redirection to avoid running into a situation where multiple accounts are posting from the same IP address. If a person is overseas and tries to use a proxy based in China to make it seem like they are in China, well then they’re just inviting the authorities to ask for server logs from the local provider, it’s the same situation if they’re in China but using an IP address from another province.

Of course most trolls or bots aren’t going to be targeted IRL, usually their accounts gets muted for some duration or banned if they violate laws or platform TOS. Occasionally you see reports of people being detained for spreading rumours or outright false claims that become widely circulated.

If the person is based overseas, there’s nothing you can do to them IRL unless you’re the US.

Yes this is just in today (Chinese text): http://www.stats.gov.cn/sj/sjjd/202308/t20230815_1942020.html

However, the proper wording is “suspend publishing” and not “no longer publish”.

自今年8月份开始，全国青年人等分年龄段的城镇调查失业率将暂停发布，主要原因是：经济社会在不断发展变化，统计工作需要不断完善，劳动力调查统计也需要进一步健全优化。比如，近年来，我国城镇青年人中，在校学生规模不断扩大。2022年，我国16-24岁城镇青年有9600多万人，其中在校学生达到6500多万人。在校学生的主要任务是学习，毕业前寻找工作的学生是否应纳入劳动力调查统计，社会各方面有不同的看法，需要进一步研究。再比如，随着我国居民受教育水平提高，青年人在校学习时间增加。在劳动力调查统计中，对于青年人年龄范围的界定，也需要进一步研究。

(DeepL translation) Since August this year, the release of the age-specific urban survey unemployment rate for young people across the country will be suspended, mainly for the following reasons: the economy and society are constantly developing and changing, statistics need to be constantly improved, and labour force surveys and statistics also need to be further improved and optimized. For example, in recent years, among China’s urban young people, the scale of school students has been expanding. 2022, China’s urban young people aged 16-24 had more than 96 million people, of which more than 65 million were school students. The main task of school students is to study. Whether students looking for jobs before graduation should be included in the labor force survey statistics, there are different views from various aspects of the society, which need to be further studied. Another example is that, as the education level of China’s residents rises, young people are spending more time in school. The definition of the age range of young people in labor force surveys and statistics also requires further study.

I heard teachers from public schools were “moving part of the curriculum behind a paid wall” before the ban on tutoring for core subjects. Teachers in public schools aren’t allowed to participate in private tutoring, that didn’t stop some teachers from trying anyway. What you are talking about is not a just possibility, it has already happened before, and is mitigated with the ban and other policies.

Forgot to mention, even though teachers in public schools can’t participate in private tutoring, there’s no stopping them from joining private schools if the salaries offered are more lucrative.

I don’t think there are released statistics on the exact distribution, but the economists who managed to turn “20% unemployment” into 50% had some ways of estimating by comparing the population of people around the ages of 16 to 24 and the number of people still in school.

There are certainly statistics about overall quality of products from the manufacturing industry, but I think it’s too broad to be very useful. For example, from this year’s statistical communique (http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/202302/t20230227_1918979.html):

The qualification rate of manufactured products[64] reached 93.29 percent.

[64] The qualification rate of manufactured products is the ratio of the samples that have passed the sampling quality test, the process of which follows certain methods, procedure and standard, to the total amount of the sampled products. The survey samples cover 29 sectors of the manufacturing industry.

For more specific statistics you’d need a more specific question. About nepotism, the campaign against corruption has some statistics but I don’t think there’s a way to quantitatively reflect on the issue of nepotism.

On educational costs, this is a manufactured need as public education from kindergarten to grade 12 is practically free in China, and university costs are almost practically free. Now private education is where things can become very expensive as you can imagine, this includes private schools and private tutoring.

Some parents think that expensive private schools offer better quality of education, or think that they are better alternatives to some low-par public schools, but I think they just cost more. Private tutoring isn’t just about core subjects, some parents may also want to enroll their kids into arts/tech/sports/etc. training classes, that’s where some of that imaginary educational costs come from too. Unless private education is banned, this non-issue of educational costs will still be a problem for competitive parents.

I didn’t go too much into the cost of living, but the cost of housing may be the main concern for parents who want to enroll kids into schools in the mega-cities (e.g. Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen), but this is also a nuanced topic.