Look at right now and consider that Japan still has something appearing to be a democracy. USA and the EU are in the “trade and denial” phase, countries like Russia and Turkey - the obvious, LOL.
That’s because Japan isn’t yet so compromised under the guise of progress.
And that’s very good. You need a newer and better technology for the same job, if it does the same job better. Not for a different job with new “wow effect component” baked in.
We use pencils, pens and writing paper still.
It wasn’t an option to have a “new and better” writing paper synchronizing all our records with some vault authoritative people have before. Now it is. Japan apparently has passed the test of people_not_ trying to move everything to that honeypot.
All hail Japan, can they please conquer us? Technically I live in a nearby country, except, eh, Moscow is kinda far from the far east …
Japanese people tend to make a big deal out of the “human touch,” especially when it comes to service, so I can see how companies aren’t jumping on to the hype. We’re also pretty slow to adopt change.
And that’s pretty cool, seems like a culture best suited for modern challenges.
I’ve heard\read there are many racist, paternalist, hierarchical and collectivist traits, but at the same time Japan apparently hasn’t hit those honeypots most of the humanity has.
Humans are apes desiring power, there’s no excuse under which you can give it to them. They’ll invent authority giving them right to judge you and think they are in the right.
Also why I absolutely despise the Silicon Valley - it’s many such people who think they are the elite now. I want that place detroited as soon as possible. Zuckerberg prosecuted for all the murders he’s committed (I’m certain there are plenty, a person with ASPD with such power just can’t be anything else) which are now unknown, Brin and other jerks playing “cooperating with legal elected authorities” while giving them something with no mandate whatsoever feeling themselves powerful - prosecuted for high treason, all these playing censorship and recommendation - prosecuted for scams on the scale of billions, yadda-yadda.
Cops saying this should be immediately sued for inciting hate or defamation or whatever against people who don’t want to be backdoored.
I have a right to not be surveilled, they don’t have a right to surveil me.
Anyway, I might all the time fly a weird trajectory between various ideologies, but they are all anarchist and Silicon Valley bosses are all thieves.
Yes, and that’s what I mean.
Representative democracy and bureaucracies are dying, IMHO. In the age of worldwide connectivity they only lead to mafia states.
Where’s Europe’s answer to…any of this?
Europe’s answer to that cancer? I guess not having it is the best one possible.
Oh yeah, Nokia, the company that made dumb phones a quarter of a century ago,
First, not “dumb phones”, Java phones. As in phones running Java applications. Mostly very good ones. I’m not that young to not remember that time, so don’t feed me this bullshit.
Second, they made a lot of other things. They were also a major contributor to QT.
They were sort of Finnish alternative to Samsung, one can say.
failed to enter the smart phone market at all,
That’s historical revisionism. It had Symbian, it had Meego and Maemo. A certain Stephen Elop became its CEO after working at Microsoft, dismantled the company and then returned to Microsoft. The company was doing fine before that certain Stephen Elop.
disappeared, was sold to Microsoft as their phone/tablet division, failed again and disappeared again.
“Disappeared” is an interesting way to say this.
Ah Bosch, the makers of my pain in the ass why the fuck did they do it that way router. Particularly the standard base needs to be jawholed up someone’s lederhosen.
Well, they make nice lawn mowers and vacuum cleaners … Or made. I dunno, don’t have anything new Bosch.
German automobile manufacturers, whose motto seems to be “Never use a part when a system will do.” Expensive and complicated to maintain and not tremendously durable. Meanwhile the Japanese will sell you a war worthy compact pickup truck.
Today - certainly, 20 years ago they were the shit. Bureaucracy replacing competition and having markets fenced from competition do bad things to companies - whodathunk.
At what, exactly? The Austrians make better wine, the Italians make better food, the Germans make better cars, the Greeks make better spelling, the Swiss make better chocolate and the British make better television. And apparently the Canadians host better porn. From the news of the last few years, all France is apparently good for is rioting against its own government.
One Fabrice Bellard weighs more than all the mentioned. And rioting against your own government does that too.
In the column under “Type” the United States features search engines, video sharing platforms, social media, marketplaces, news, weather, software, email. Russia and China both feature news, email, social media.
In other words, social honeypots. I’m serious. I live in Russia, don’t tell me about Russian news and social media, it’s a vast junkyard of half-propaganda half-schizophrenia mossy crap, and people using those for purposes for which they could mostly as well use the 90s’ piece of software called Hotline. And they should, I’m serious. And US search engines, video sharing platforms, social media and such are the same.
It’s all one big broken dream of humanity, broken by its passions and entertainment and laziness.
Using the same approaches to human psyche that gambling businesses use, except gambling is held in its dedicated corners of society, while this shit has spilled everywhere.
These places sound like they’re trying to run a society,
That’s an indicator of a war lost if someone is trying to centrally run your society with that much success. It’s death, feeding with your remains probably in the future someone who hasn’t lost that battle, or someone born from the ashes.
Ah. OK. Yep, people lie in their CV’s.
It’s not just a multicultural area, it’s as if they made the African continent two states, drawing the border randomly for one of them to be majority Muslim (and consisting of two unconnected parts).
It’s a whole world with a few language families of completely different cultures, inside which there are languages as big as German not mutually intelligible with their related languages near them.
There’s no such ethnicity as “Indian”.
BTW, about religion - there is an ethnic and religious group in India, their Church is Apostolic Christian, Miaphysite, and it’s in communion with Coptic and Armenian churches, and it has way more members than there are Armenian Christians in the world. Yet when listing Miaphysite churches, it’s usually not even remembered.
I mean, they use English as the main international language inside India, the fact that there’s no native language fitting the role of lingua franca more talks for itself. It’s not about policy, it’s about the fact that Hindi or Urdu are nothing for Dravidic regions. Not even oppression, just WTF and why should they use it.
Because people already owning shares in important companies or connections to politicians or company bureaucrats etc - they don’t need to scale up. That’s intended.
I swear, the humanity is stupid. I just can look at everything around me and see all kinds of socio-economic arguments to be right. All of them at the same time.
No. Standards might be tax funded and adherence to them enforced.
A market of resources (to provide services via standard way) is possible - standard format search, standard format service tracking, standard format storage service, and what not.
Only if they’d want that, of course. They literally say what they want - a Silicon Valley. With all the dystopian shit.
There’s plenty of oil already found in Europe.
Ah, yes, BTW, people are talking as if immigration doesn’t exist.
Once upon a time a certain Eastern Roman Empire was dealt the final blow by Ottoman Turks, and its former inhabitants possessing very valuable competencies and knowledge would be plentiful in South Europe.
Perhaps had that not happened, Europeans would get to the “colonizing the new world” activity a couple of centuries later.
… And it even doesn’t do anymore what it did to gain the past glory.
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The only reason the EU is not part of that great modern thing is because it’s impossible to match the margins achieved with such a scale that things
invented in Britain and built by the United States out of parts manufactured in Southeast Asia while Europe masturbated
have.
I’m of an opinion that some downshifting is desperately needed. It won’t happen anyway for surveillance and warfare, but EU-produced electronics are possible - they are doing it with MCs for cars and for plastic cards and for elevators and for microwaves and … .
The top nine: Google, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, ChatGPT, X/Twitter, WhatsApp, Reddit and Wikipedia, are American. Tenth is Yahoo Japan followed by Yahoo!.
Those American things you list, they are not very good.
This brings up a point I’ve been meaning to make for awhile: I don’t think Europe has it in them.
Do you know who Fabrice Bellard is?
Do you know who, ah, ok, Linus Torvalds counts as a USian by now.
KDE developers are mostly from the EU, I think.
Opera browser, when that was a thing, were mostly from European countries, I think.
Nokia, eh, Nokia, Nokia. Siemens. Sony Ericsson. Bosch. German carmakers.
Minitel, do you know what Minitel was?
Many of the fundamental things used everywhere, like some error-correcting codes for satellite communications, have people from the EU as authors.
Actually, I think if you compare fundamental achievements, and not commercial ones, you’ll see that European countries are not that far behind.
Microsoft, Google, Apple, IBM, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Europe has got nothing that even sort of competes with any of them
Yeah, the hardware production thing is generally sad. This wasn’t so even in the early 90s, so my own modest honest opinion is that this was killed because of the US creeping patent war. Similarly to other things. A relatively recent development.
I mean, yeah, competencies don’t pop up overnight, but frankly there’s no magic in making a computer.
There’s hardly achievable level of minimization, involving patents impeding competition and very narrow margins, which prevent anything outside of the main “computing silk road” of ASML-TSMC-Intel&AMD&ARM from functioning.
If it were up for me, I’d just say that late 80s’ computers were good enough. Or at least early 90s’ ones. When that “computing silk road” hadn’t yet become as unavoidable.
and only four websites are from the EU: Xvideos and XNXX are French
France is still a great nation.
I simply don’t think Europeans have it in them; the ones that did moved to the US over the last century and a half.
Y-yeah, that part has changed a lot, because on the other end of the pond there’s not much “innovation” now too.
But it will remain a minority as long as the EU puts the interests of the financial sector above all others.
The EU puts the interests of its elites and bureaucracies above all others. Because the EU is its elites and bureaucracies, that’s how it’s built.
OK, I don’t even live in an EU country (OK, suppose in like 50 years by some miracle Armenia joins it, and suppose I get Armenian citizenship before that …).
But - it’s not EU’s particular problem.
EU is sort of a system built entirely of “liberal democracy best practices” as they were seen in year 1999. And all its faults are highly average and general for liberal democracies.
It’s the crisis of liberal democracies as a thing, because modern technologies allow representatives to guide their populations like a Victoria II player does. Like in a global strategy. And it works. It’s not even only modern technologies, it’s also “political technologies” like what was normal for USA for many years, but to the rest of the world has spread only in the 90s and 00s. In USA those were, until some point around Reagan, balanced by functional journalism and protest culture.
Except the fact that it works in the sense of having necessary feedbacks and controls and computing power is only one side of the coin, the other side of which is that direct democracy can work too. This removes direct democracy’s disadvantage of impracticality, and removes representative democracy’s advantage of stability (the opposite of what politicians call stability, stability of democracy is the direct opposite of stability of elites, culture, morality, economics, laws and policies).
And the fact that it works in the sense of political technologies means that representative democracy gains a significant disadvantage of not being really democracy anymore. Those unfortunately work. Those can still work when voting for decisions, not people, but it’s harder to make a populace support two inconsistent (from the point of propaganda) actions than it is to make them support a politician who’ll support both and then make them doubt the inconsistency.
So to adapt for changes liberal democracies must become direct liberal democracies or turn into Russias. I have spoken.
One of old lines against left is that it’s just people who want free stuff.
Left ideologies are not, in fact, about getting more free stuff (and the “bread and circuses” thing originates earlier than right or left liberalism, and is used just as well by right factions, and Rome is generally loved by the right more than by the left, making a funny comparison to Sparta which is more loved by the left, while Athens is again loved more by the right).
Still, see, in a situation where European nations are gradually becoming less and less democratic, without significant resistance utilizing modern technologies for building a dystopia worse than cyberpunk books promised, and the questions in computing revolve around dependence on governments and corporations in all things done with computers, - in this situation you write about “open source and socialized”.
Not about using those same technologies for building a direct democracy before “elected representatives” use them to make us serfs or surplus biomass. Not about using them to track all state officials’ locations and their finances (if they don’t want that, they can pick another job). Not about revision of patent systems benefiting corporations and in practice making any truly free system of communication on the Internet dubiously legal.
No, about “open source” - which is the “circuses” here, for things to be cool and interoperable, and about “socialized” - which is the “bread” here.
Yes. Also Silicon Valley is a wrong example.
Old Nokia is a good example, Acorn, ARM of old.
Except what those people want is exactly a second Silicon Valley, just loyal to them.
That and also - humans not knowing something can man up and learn it. When they need, they’ll learn.
And OP’s question about European clouds - it depends really. A lot of what this endeavor needs is just advanced use of OpenStack. I’m confident there are plenty of people with such skills in the EU countries.
As for the post content - I dunno, my experience with Kubernetes consists of using it, but not trying to understand or touch it too closely, because it stinks. Maybe those engineers were like that too.
Fax is an analog system that can be built without very complex production lines in place, that’s a good enough reason.