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Agreed, well placed and executed action or sex scenes can be used to great effect. They are also equally capable of adding nothing but wasted time. My point is that bad action scenes have been wasting plenty of time in movies lately, so a desire for tight films with no fat is definitely not the cause for the comparative dearth of sex scenes.

This is at least as true of action scenes, and it doesn’t stop them from bloating the run time of 90% of the movies coming out today.

They were introduced in the first Trek film to justify being able to see the ship at all:

“And whoever was designing the process of making the visual effects hadn’t really thought about what I was thinking about, which was how do you see the Enterprise when it’s in deep space, when it’s not near the sun or a star or anything? What’s the source of light? Where’s the key light? Where’s the fill light? How are you going to make this thing beautiful? And my thought about it was how to make it light itself up, kind of like the Titanic at night. And make it light itself up by having lights onboard the nacelles, shining on the fuselage, and from the fuselage shining up on the nacelles, and make it look like it’s self-illuminated. So I didn’t have to justify a key light, because there wouldn’t be one. And no one had ever thought of that."

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/07/star-trek-the-motion-picture-tmp-enterprise-refit-drydock-douglas-trumbull

Maybe not literally, but the season 3 episode where Discovery arrived in the future went hard on the western vibes. I think they even included swinging saloon doors at one point.

Love TMP. I like a film that takes its time and builds a mood.

I’ll also never get tired of loving beauty shots of the gorgeous 1701 refit.

Perhaps http://meninhats.com?

I grew up with this variation on my C64. Good times. https://gaming.trekcore.com/startrekc64-1/

I’ve also come across this mashup with 25th Anniversary, which looks like great fun: https://emabolo.itch.io/super-star-trek-25th

Nah, Picard was the gross one. He made the decision to date a subordinate in Lessons, and it ended with the woman in question transferring to another ship.

Kirk pointedly kept it in his pants when it came to the women under his command (unless he was under the influence of an alien virus, or artificial memories, or personality altering transporter accident…)

Theory of relativity. Which one is in the mirror is entirely dependent on your frame of reference.

At a very basic level, the concept could work - jump into the future to show how the crew’s adventures are remembered. Babylon 5 succeeded at the same kind of idea for their excellent Season 4 finale.

But B5 showed that the characters left a profound and enduring legacy. In These Are The Voyages, Riker consumes the story of Trip’s death like it’s a mildly engaging episode of a daytime soap - between the scenes of a better episode that works much better without the addition. It’s just the worst execution you could imagine.

Does the ringship count? I’m not sure at what point a “spaceship” becomes a “starship”.

Absolutely. nuTrek is supposed to be the sex starved one? Commander Riker would have something to say about that, but he’s busy on holodeck four.

I’m talking about situations where my meaning would become clear if I weren’t interrupted before I finished what I was saying.

It’s fine, though. I’m learning to front-load my main points. Instead of trying to say “Hey, I know we said we’d clean the basement this weekend, but I think it’s more important that I spend that time fixing the car,” and getting interrupted with thoughts about the basement before I’m able to mention the car, I try to say “I’d like to work on the car this weekend. I think the basement can wait.” Takes practice, though.

My partner does this all the time. Unfortunately, they’re often completely wrong about what I was trying to say. Suddenly we’re having two completely different conversations simultaneously.

Strange New Worlds spins off from Discovery and carries on plot elements established there. Section 31 continues Georgiou’s story, and Starfleet Academy is picking up on the 31st century setting and characters. That’s a lot of ongoing influence.

Now see, if they’d had Jokester Data drop that pun right before the credits rolled, I’d have forgiven the whole thing.

I thought the crossover element of Generations really brought it down. The original cast had a far better farewell in Star Trek VI, and I don’t think the writers of Generations had enough to say about Kirk’s character to justify the tortured story logic that brought him in.

Give me a Kirkless cut and I’ll be so much happier. All the pure TNG elements work fine for me, McDowell is great, and the D looks beautiful with cinematic lighting.

I was raised a Trekkie, can’t rightly say what my first contact was. My earliest memory of it was me expressing a preference for “the one with Spock” over TNG, the only other option at the time.