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      The options on Android aren’t much better, unless you go for some obscure manufacturer who won’t support the phone with updates 1 year after its life cycle.

      Apple was for a while the only remaining flagship manufacturer who actually provided mini models. Ironic, because Android is supposed to be the alternative providing more options.

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        Moto is still kicking, Samsung has small models too, Asus is going alright, Sony at least the are skinny.

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          I haven’t seen any phone offered by these manufacturers that is as small as iPhone 13 mini. At best they’re just marginally smaller than iPhone 15.

          There is no good alternative anymore if you’re looking for a truly small phone.

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        The options on Android aren’t much better

        Literally every one of them is better, because none of them are running iOS. That’s my subjective opinion.

        unless you go for some obscure manufacturer who won’t support the phone with updates 1 year after its life cycle.

        Samsung and Google both support devices for 5 years now. Doesn’t matter how long Apple “supports” the software because they don’t support the hardware.

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          I’m talking about small phones. iPhone 13 mini was the last decent option when it came to small phones. Neither Google or Samsung make phones that small. The smallest phones they make are same size as a regular iPhone 13.

          Now there’s only a few “obscure” manufacturers left who make small phones. “Obscure” manufacturers usually lack long term support on both the software and the hardware side to be a decent option.

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      As if there are equivalent and small phones with Android.

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      I find that to be a good option. Unfortunately, given my current needs, the Apple Watch is the best device to meet them, so I’m stuck with the iPhone. And yes, I’ve researched the Galaxy Watch, too, but app integration and health measurements are considered lackluster compared to the AW.

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        that’s always the problem with android based stuff. good software is the one thing they can’t do.

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            It’s not impossible, it’s just a chore level difficulty. Either buy it in Apple Music or just pop the audio file into garage band and export as ringtone. iOS is way better than Android in every aspect except sideloading and expensive development and restrictions on what apps can do, but it’s already enough for your needs.

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              sideloading

              You have already shown you are brainwashed by apple. Have you ever even seen a modern android phone that costs more than $500?

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                Why quote sideloading?

                Lol, there are a TON. The Fairphone, pretty much every Samsung phone, Google Pixel, OnePlus 11, Motorola Razr… I could go on and on

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                  Because sideloading is a fake concept developed by apple because they want you to think that you can only install from the app store. It is called downloading and installing. On android, you have the benefit of multiple app stores to choose from, not just one. You can also download .apk directly and install that. With iOS you are SOL unless you have one of the few jailbreakable phones, which will fall behind on security updates and become inherently insecure.

                  Every one of those phones even in their standard configuration smack iOS flagships 6 ways to Sunday. I know this because I have used both, android since 2007 and iOS since 2012 to 2020.

                  Yes, it is harder to break an iOS system, but android offers infinitely more freedom, and the UI is not bad either. If you don’t like the UI, you can simply install another launcher.

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                Wut?

                You’ve been able to download files since like iOS 5. You’re just being obtuse at this point.

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                dude… it’s 2023. Why are you fighting for a mega corporation that cares nothing for you. Just let people use what they want to use. If they are happy with their color box, then leave them being happy with their color box.

                It’s a tool, nothing more.

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                Why would I email it to myself if I have already downloaded it?

                And what world do you live in where downloading a PDF and sending it via email is something the iPhone can’t do? Are you living in 2007?

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                My lawyer sent me a pdf via Gmail on my iPad, I signed it with the pencil and sent it back in five seconds. What are you talking about?

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            in sheer things you can do, android is clearly superior. but there are some things that apple products will do best, like integrating everything so well.

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                i didn’t refer to any specific feature, but stuff like airdrop, the airtag system, sharing files between apple devices.

                never actually used any apple product besides the 2nd gen ipod touch, but i’ve been told they’re pretty rad.

                also i’m never gonna buy any of that overpriced, planned obsolescence bullshit. not for 800+€

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                  airdrop

                  sharing files between apple devices

                  Uh, what about syncthing? Syncthing is literally better than anything apple has ever pumped out in the name of file sharing, because it is multi-platform and does it in essentially real time (configurable).

                  Airdrop is borderline pointless too, it does pretty much the same thing as any messenger worth a damn when it comes to filesharing but has a much lower limit than most of them, both in filesize and filetype.

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    It’s probably not gonna happen but maybe they’ll fill that gap with the next iPhone SE

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      Sadly I think the latest rumours were that they’d use the Xr/11 chassis for the new SE. hopefully not because if they use the 12/13 mini… oh boy it’d be great

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        That would be unfortunate, I always saw the SE as not only the cheapest but also the smallest model but I guess it’s really just a way for them to use up old parts?

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          Yeah that’s exactly what it is and why it’s cheap. They have a bunch of leftover or recycled chassis that they can shove new guts into and sell for cheaper.

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      I’m hoping against hope that Google copies Apple and turns the Pixel 5 into a mold for the Google version of Pixel SE. I know it’s not happening, but that phone is close to perfect for me, it’s still my daily driver. Just give me a P5 SE with updated guts every two or three years.

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      Thing is, very few people bought the small phone. The community that wants them is very vocal, but they don’t show up in big numbers at the cash register.

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    As someone with tiny hands and tiny fingers, I’ve been thinking long and hard about this and in the future, when my 13 mini lets out its last breath, I’ll probably just go with a regular-sized iPhone and use Voice Control to swipe right and “go back” when I use it one-handed, since reachability doesn’t address how I struggle to reach the far end of the screen with one-hand (I even have to struggle a bit with the mini). Sucks that I’ll have to use voice control as a workaround, but I mostly bought an iPhone for the Apple Watch anyway.

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      The solution that I have been bouncing around is to get the watch for quick use, and then a larger phone to act more as a tablet. Of course this requires me to have multiple devices, which is annoying. But here we are.

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      I considered getting a Mini a couple years ago. I tried one. It was not small enough for the reasons you describe. I have a regular sized iPhone for that reason.

      I’ve long said the mini flopped not because people don’t want small phones, but rather because it wasn’t small enough to be worth the tradeoff of a smaller screen.

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      In Settings -> Accessibility-> Touch -> Assistive Touch you can configure a small button the floats on the screen (you can move it around), providing access to all sort of gestures and functions one handed.

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        Tried that but none of the gestures include “go back” nor “swipe right” (the closest thing is “scroll right”). Even used a custom gesture as well and that didn’t work.

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      Run a Pop Socket on your phone and buy a couple of these:

      PopSockets Flexible Phone Mount & Stand, Phone Tripod Mount, Universal Device Mount - Black https://a.co/d/0aYtsed

      It makes an S22U so much more ergonomic for smaller hands. YMMV.

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        was just doing the math yesterday to see when I was going to have to get rid of mine. I get it, I just wish they would have kept it going

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    I’d been using an iPod Touch 4G thru 7G, for my everything pocket computer. Apple killed the iPod Touch, so I migrated to iPhone 13 mini just over a year ago. Sorry folx, they prolly killed the 13 mini cuz of me. Any other Apple products you’d like me to latch onto, so Apple will kill it? :-(

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      Lol I feel like this happens to me too. You like the fit of that T-shirt? Discontinued. You like the shape of those eyeglasses? Discontinued. You want a new car that starts up without 5,000 microchips? Haha too bad. You like buying phones that you can’t use without physically hurting your hands? Cool, enjoy the new 16 inch iPhone, it’s the smallest available. You’ll never leave it in your pocket or bag, because it doesn’t fit in either one. Oh and you need a speaker adapter to hear things without earbuds. That’ll be $2,500.

      Sent from my dying iPhone SE 2020.

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    Why? Why do they make so few small phones? We have the tech, and people like me really prefer it over the behemoths of the modern day. WHYYYYYYY?

    EDIT: That gif came out WAY bigger than I expected. Apologies to your eyes, my friends.

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    I can see the appeal of these little phones, but I think the batteries weren’t as good as the other counterparts… so that aspect alone made me pass them.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    That marks the end of life for arguably the best premium small phone designed for one-handed use.

    Market research has consistently shown that most users want bigger screens and batteries, which are incompatible with a smaller phone.

    Supply chain analysts and journalists with inside knowledge have generally agreed that Apple could update the iPhone SE as soon as next year—but most rumors have suggested that it would go bigger, not smaller.

    Many op-eds have been written at tech sites (including this one, by me) saying it’s important for Apple to offer a one-handed phone size, even if it’s less popular than the bigger models.

    That said, supporting an additional size adds extra supply chain and production overhead—and it may not be the most financially prudent decision for Apple if it’s confident that it can covert mini owners to join the majority and opt for larger phones instead.

    Chances are that axing the iPhone 13 mini won’t do much to hurt Apple’s earnings, but it leaves a minority of consumers without an important option, and I still think that’s bad news.


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