In light of the recent election, itā€™s clear that the Democratic Party needs a significant leftward shift to better address the needs and concerns of the American people. The partyā€™s centrist approach is increasingly out of touch, limiting its ability to appeal to a broader base and especially to young voters, who are looking for bold and transformative policies. The fact that young men became a substantial part of the conservative voting bloc should be a wake-up callā€”itā€™s essential that the Democratic Party broadens its appeal by offering real solutions that resonate with this demographic.

Furthermore, one major missed opportunity was the decision to forgo primaries, which could have brought new energy and ideas to the ticket. Joe Bidenā€™s choice to run for a second term, despite earlier implications of a one-term presidency, may have ultimately contributed to the loss by undermining trust in his promises. Had the party explored alternative candidates in a primary process, the outcome could have been vastly different. It is now imperative for the Working Families Party and the Progressive Caucus to push for a stronger, unapologetically progressive agenda within the Democratic Party. The time for centrist compromises has passed, as evidenced by setbacks dating back to Hillary Clintonā€™s 2016 loss, the persistently low approval ratings for Biden since 2022, and Kamala Harrisā€™s recent campaign, which left many progressives feeling alienated. To regain momentum and genuinely connect with the electorate, a clear departure from moderate politics is essential.

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    Yes, Clinton got fewer total votes in a lower turnout election, but by every other metric the election was less bad than this one was for Harris, whether we look at the EC or votes compared to the other side.

    As for Gaza, there is one very simple and straightforward action that Biden could have taken (or still could actually) or that Harris could have said sheā€™ll do: place conditions on arms shipments to Israel (or even just stop them entirely). Refusing to do that is a complete endorsement of Israelā€™s actions. Like I said, itā€™s like saying that you disapprove of a mass shooterā€™s actions while handing him another clip. Words and speeches are completely meaningless unless that is addressed, all she ever said was essentially, ā€œWouldnā€™t it be nice if they could resolve their differences without fighting? But of course I fully support Israelā€™s right to defend itself and will keep arming them unconditionally.ā€ There is no indication that she wouldā€™ve been at all willing to take meaningful action.

    It used to be the case that politicians would promise to do good things, and then maybe sometimes theyā€™d actually keep their promises. Nowadays they donā€™t even promise anything and people just convince themselves theyā€™ll do what they want regardless. Like, even if she had said that sheā€™d stop shipments, sure I would support her, but it would not be entirely unreasonable to question whether sheā€™d follow through. But in the case where she couldnā€™t even say it, the chances of her doing it are basically zero.

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      Yes, Clinton got fewer total votes in a lower turnout election, but by every other metric the election was less bad than this one was for Harris, whether we look at the EC or votes compared to the other side.

      No need to rehash what I said above, beyond that Iā€™m still waiting for the data.

      As for Gaza, there is one very simple and straightforward action that Biden could have taken (or still could actually) or that Harris could have said sheā€™ll do: place conditions on arms shipments

      Agreed. Now, my understanding is that Harris as VP canā€™t actually do this, that authority runs from Biden down to his cabinet secretaries. But she could have made that promise. Itā€™s still not taking action, but maybe it would have been enough.

      Refusing to do that is a complete endorsement of Israelā€™s actions.

      So minor disagreement here. You say complete, or 100%, while Iā€™d say like 95% or 97%. Perhaps an immaterial difference.

      Words and speeches are completely meaningless unless that is addressed

      But your proposal above, for Harris, is just more mere words: ā€œHarris could have saidā€

      all she ever said was essentially, ā€œWouldnā€™t it be nice if they could resolve their differences without fighting?"

      I think calling for a cease-fire is a mite bit stronger than that, but again perhaps the difference between us is so small as to be immaterial.

      "and will keep arming them unconditionally.ā€

      Agreed, definitely a problem. No need to rehash about the Jewish voting bloc stuff - we understand why this was done and we saw first hand that it didnā€™t work out. So with 20/20 hindsightā€¦

      ā€œBut of course I fully support Israelā€™s right to defend itselfā€

      After Oct 7, 2024, I would too. To say otherwise is an insult to the families of the hostages - telling them that they arenā€™t important enough to protect, that itā€™s okay for this to happen to them again.

      There is no indication that she wouldā€™ve been at all willing to take meaningful action.

      On here we completely disagree. ā€œI will stop the Gaza war by any means necessary.ā€ seems like a pretty big indication.

      Meanwhile,

      Trump says heā€™s about to speak to Netanyahu and says, "Biden is trying to hold him back ā€¦ he probably should be doing the opposite, actually.

      Source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-trump-cease-fire (link to quote in the ā€œfree reinā€ link on that page)

      To be fair, the above is also a really big indication.

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        Words and speeches are completely meaningless unless that is addressed

        But your proposal above, for Harris, is just more mere words: ā€œHarris could have saidā€

        Thatā€™s why I used the word, ā€œunless.ā€ If the words are addressing that point, then theyā€™re meaningful, but as long as they arenā€™t, they are not.

        On here we completely disagree. ā€œI will stop the Gaza war by any means necessary.ā€ seems like a pretty big indication.

        Does it now? There are lots of ways to stop a war, for example, by destroying the other sideā€™s willingness or capability to keep fighting. You know, like Trump said, ā€œfinish the job,ā€ and then there wonā€™t be any more fighting because one side would all be dead. Youā€™re choosing to interpret it to mean what you want it to mean, and a supporter of Israel would interpret it to mean what they want it to mean, typical equivocation with no indication of what it actually means in practical terms.

        What you donā€™t understand is that politicians are most responsive to voters in the lead-up to an election. After they get elected, then theyā€™ve already gotten the votes they needed, so they can focus more on lobbyists and corporate donors. Thatā€™s why there is zero chance that she wouldā€™ve become more pro-Palestinian when in office, because the voters are far more favorable to Palestine than the donors and lobbyists are.

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          Thatā€™s why I used the word, ā€œunless.ā€ If the words are addressing that point, then theyā€™re meaningful, but as long as they arenā€™t, they are not.

          Ah I think I got your meaning now.

          Does it now?

          Yes.

          There are lots of ways to stop a war, for example, by destroying the other sideā€™s willingness or capability to keep fighting. You know, like Trump said, ā€œfinish the job,ā€

          I assume this is just an example and you arenā€™t seriously suggesting this is what Harris means. Harris has been very clear on the need for an immediate ceasefire.

          Youā€™re choosing to interpret it to mean what you want it to mean,

          Well, the alternative meaning doesnā€™t fit with what Harris has said about getting to an immediate ceasefire - you canā€™t have a ceasefire if youā€™re trying to kill every last person on the enemy side. That contradiction makes me think Iā€™ve interpreted it correctly.

          What you donā€™t understand is that politicians are most responsive to voters in the lead-up to an election.

          I got that. I figured this was an important constraint on Harris being able to speak in support on Gaza in fact - AIPAC withdrawing their support of her.

          After they get elected, then theyā€™ve already gotten the votes they needed, so they can focus more on lobbyists and corporate donors.

          This is a good point, AIPAC would still be around after the election.

          Thatā€™s why there is zero chance that she wouldā€™ve become more pro-Palestinian when in office, because the voters are far more favorable to Palestine than the donors and lobbyists are.

          I think zero chance is too extreme. Consider this,

          Obama said in late 2010 that his views on gay marriage were ā€œevolving,ā€ and since then administration officials have pointed to those comments, stressing that Obama is a supporter

          Source: https://www.politico.com/story/2012/05/obama-expected-to-speak-on-gay-marriage-076103

          Also, the goal wasnā€™t necessarily to make Harris pro-Palestine, but simply more anti-genocide. As the situation in Gaza worsens, I could see a possibility where from the grassroots a movement of change, going thru e.g. Sanders and AOC, would eventually convince Harris to evolve her position here as well.

          Now, as you point out there are powerful forces that would resist that, but the outcome of that battle would not have been a foregone conclusion.

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            Quick question, how do you feel about Trump talking about immediately ending the war in Ukraine?

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              Optimistic. As per https://sopuli.xyz/post/18928087 it seems that ā€œZelensky was somewhat reassuredā€

              Previously I had thought that this guy would just withdraw all support and hand free reign to Russia, but Zelensky is no fool. If heā€™s feeling it, then Iā€™m very happy indeed to be proven wrong about this point.

              Another silver lining - if the US withdraws from NATO, then at least, they canā€™t block Ukraine from joiningā€¦

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                My point is that calling for peace doesnā€™t necessarily mean very much unless thereā€™s terms and/or a plan for how to bring people to the table if they donā€™t want to cooperate.

                • From a personal point of view, Iā€™d still take the promise, provide that I can the person making it as being reliable.

                  But from a wider point of view, agreed. Perhaps there was something more Harris could have said, earlier, to back up those statements and give this voting bloc a stronger reason to believe in her without causing the Jewish voting bloc to move away from her. Alternatively, maybe the risk of alienating that other bloc with more concrete steps or plans should have been taken - as stepping to hard to avoid alienating them clearly didnā€™t work out.