• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Dems unmistakeably snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, but it beggars belief that all the indictments and treason didn’t undermine Trump’s popularity any. The right-wing media machine must be one of the most effective brainwashing apparatuses ever to exist.

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      He raised a ton of money immediately following the convictions, which he then use to buy world series ads. The convictions without sentencing helped him. That judge knew exactly what she was doing when she delayed sentencing. Welp, it’s after the election, so is she going to sentence him? Didn’t think so.

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      They didn’t vote “for him” so he didn’t matter, they voted instead against trans athletes and forced child trans surgeries and whatever other manufactured conspiracy theories were peddled confidently.

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        It’s more about the puberty blockers than surgery. That’s the focus from my media sources.

        Are they doing surgeries on kids too?

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          I have read more than a few stories of teenage girls getting perfectly healthy breasts removed due to “gender identity”. It’s not widespread like it’s happening every day, but it happens.

          The surgery stuff is overblown, but men playing in women’s sports is becoming more common, and whether leftists want to admit it or not, it matters to people, especially parents, for obvious reasons.

          Until they stop supporting it, if nothing else, they’ll forever give conservatives a legit talking point.

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          Oh you know how it is - they throw just a ton of stuff out there in order to see what will stick. Yeah puberty blockers are among them - and ngl that is kinda messed up if a doctor is trying to push something that dangerous onto a child (established trans communities in the EU even agree on that point - yikes, how bad does something have to be when even the conservatives manage to piece together a half-assed understanding that something is dangerous!?).

          But there’s so much more - trans athletes being in the same bathroom and how unfair it is that e.g. a testosterone-having person can compete on identical grounds as one lacking that. That one too is a hot topic of contention even outside of conservative circles as well.

          The surgery issue was more like “gender-affirming care offered at a school”, and iirc it was mostly a purely hypothetical, b/c since when is America known for offering HEALTHCARE, amiright!? Also, I said “forced”, but the real thing was that the child wanted it, while the parents did not, hence you know, “forced”, b/c the parents (who own the child, fully legally) did not desire it.

          The real truths, like abortion, and the economy, and literally all other facts, kinda get buried when we begin to discuss how factual matters can best be “used” for political gains.

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      They have perfected targeted misinformation. you should see how many fake accounts there are even in local Facebook groups. It’s crazy.

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      Isn’t it already known that the trump fans are zealots for him. The fact that people are shocked that they’ll turn out for him regardless of what he does surprises me. He practically said this in 2016 with his I could shoot somebody quote and he’s been proven right. The only way you beat trump is by having people turn out to vote against him and to do that you need to run an inspiring campaign.

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      You can call it brainwashing or whatever you like.

      To me, the fact that Trump’s indictments came as a result of enormous attention by his political rivals, during an election, gives me less respect for the implications in terms of his character.

      Like, the timing is a little suspect on these legal indictments.

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        why do you care about timing?

        He got more popular, came more into the limelight and then committed more crimes. Then he was indicted because he was in the Spotlight and his crimes were too numerous and oblivious to ignore.

        He did the crimes, that’s what matters. He is a felon and a repeat criminal.

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        What’s your stance on the about with Hilary before and during the election up to and including Trump pressing for investigation and moreso to “lock her up”.

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      Apparently the Dems where aware of the massive popularity Trump had. Their internal polling showed him taking 400 electoral votes. At least that’s the story being brought now. If true there never was a jaws of victory, it was all posturing by the Dems. And then it’s a shame those 71M voters still came, more should have stayed home… to signal the party top brass to go fuck themselves.

      Edit: I don’t understand the down votes. The lesson dem leadership is seemingly drawing is they need to move right and abandon LGBTQ subjects. While is argue the lesson should be, move left and care about stuff like universal healthcare and job security more.

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          Yes, and the fact that Biden stepped down and endorsed Harris, nuking a democratic primary should be seen in a completely different light then.