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Summary
A woman is killed by a partner or ex-partner nearly every two days in Germany, with 155 such murders in 2023, according to the first-ever Federal Criminal Police Office report on gender-specific crimes.
Activists and officials are calling for stronger protections, but Germany’s anti-domestic violence law remains stalled in political negotiations.
Women’s shelters lack 14,000 spaces, forcing some victims to travel hundreds of kilometers for safety.
Funding gaps, insufficient legal protections, and high costs deter many from seeking help, perpetuating cycles of violence.
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Fitting to the occasion a demonstration against violence against women was beaten up brutally be the police in Berlin yesterday evening. The demonstration was raising awareness to the violence against women in Gaza.
While the German foreign minister Baerbock claims to follow a “feminist” foreign policy, this only extends to white women.
The police yesterday were brutal. Germany is on its downward spiral into totalitarianism
(1) Whoever does not render assistance in the case of an accident or a common danger or emergency although it is necessary and can reasonably be expected under the circumstances, in particular if it is possible without substantial danger to that person and without breaching other important duties, incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or a fine.
(2) Whoever obstructs a person who is rendering or wishes to render assistance to another person in such a situation incurs the same penalty.
Penalty would be bumped up because committed while in office. Additionally if there’s consequences they’d be looking at negligent bodily harm or even manslaughter (because Garantenstellung).
So, question: Did anyone actually file a criminal complaint or is this whole thing going to be limited to shaky tiktoks that don’t give nearly enough context to tell what’s actually going on?
And, lastly: Police actually have some medical training. They know how to handle unconscious people safely.
Police systematically obstructs and lies in investigations against police officers. Also when filing a complaint often an immediate charge comes back claiming you would have assaulted officers, for which half a dozen officers are eager to testify.
Not an issue with video evidence and evidently there was a camera present. Guy should’ve documented shit instead of filming himself.
I don’t even have words for how sus that is: “Look! A crime is being committed!” – stares into camera, refuses to show crime.
How is the rise in overall violence? Does the violence against women deviate from the overall trend.
Also escaping abusive relations for women has a financial hurdle is so incredibly depressing to read, as this would in my opinion be the easiest for a government to solve…
I believe this is also a reason why the right is so focussed on breaking down social security and hammering the “normal family”… to reduce options women have even more.
How is the rise in overall violence?
Similar. In 2023 violent crime was up 8.6% and had reached a 15 year high. If you read that article closely there are clues as to what’s going on. This isn’t unique to Germany either, other EU nations like France are experiencing the same trend.
More specifically the Domestic Violence rate in Germany has been ticking steadily upwards since at least 2013, that’s as far back as I pulled statistics, a trend that many other EU nations (Sweden, France, Lithuania, Ireland, etc) have also been experiencing.
I can link all the data if you want but it’s pretty overwhelming to wade through.
Thanks man… it’s a troubling trend indeed. And good that you refer to numbers instead of the feelz. And the media is not helping by amplifying the feelz and making stuff disproportionate to the issue we see…
54% of men in Germany are victims of intimate partner violence. Source (in German)
From your link (translated), the men in the survey didn’t seem to engage in whataboutism:
The participants most often experienced psychological violence (40 percent) [including] aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others. 39 percent suffered from the controlling behavior of the partner, isolation and permanent blame. 30 percent would also experience physical violence…
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…With regard to their own perpetratorship, more than half of the men stated that they had used violence in a relationship themselves, about a quarter see themselves in both the victim and the perpetrator role.
I don’t think much changed in the overall pattern, in another (also German) study what five years ago I read an absolutely overwhelming number of domestic violence constellations is mutual, provided psychological violence is taken into account, bluntly said assholes hook up with assholes. And lesbian couples have a higher rate than heteros who have a higher rate than gay men.
I do think the whole current approach to addressing the issue is fundamentally flawed: Aggression is not particularly gendered, though expresses itself in gendered ways, we have to un-fuck the psychology of people overall. Long story short we need to eat the rich to take the pressure off, then, once people have a breather many will fix themselves, and the rest will be in a state where putting them on the couch actually has a chance of success. Hard to drain a swamp while you’re fighting off crocodiles.
aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others
It’s worth noting that these acts may be “violence” in someone’s estimation, but are not within the typical description of “violent crime” or “domestic violence” in a criminal sense.
Insults are a crime over here as-is, and generally speaking psychological violence can be prosecuted as assault as long as the impact reaches the level of bodily injury. E.g. driving someone into depression is assault.
But you’re right the laws are insufficient in this regard: While e.g. cutting off hair is considered a bodily injury, a thing which is neither crippling nor permanent nor painful, the standard applied to psychological violence requires lasting, grave, impact, and thus victims have a very hard time getting justice.
And, of course, all of this isn’t helped by psychological violence often simply not being considered violence by the median citizen. We need a culture shift in that regard.
aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others
It’s worth nothing that these acts may be “violence” in someone’s estimation, but are not within the typical description of “violent crime” or “domestic violence”.
If it’s actually an important issue to you, why make your grand stand in the comments section of a post talking about a different issue
In all fairness, reactions like yours are probably a reason why. Look, the MGTOW and incels should just fuck off already…
In this case the subject is related, and a 45/55 split is way less than the disparity in media coverage would have everyone believe.
The original comment you responded to could have been more helpful to ask for more attention for Domestic Violence in general. But something tells me it would have been met with similar responses.
Alienating, and ignoring the issues men have that possibly even are a root cause for their instability that leads to DV is also helping women… maybe even more. This is like how poverty creates crime… not ethnicity. It is much more of a class issue than a gender causes violence/victimization issue…
The issue is mentioned in the text accompanying the post:
Activists have called on the government to do more to end violence against women.
I wish ‘activists’ would finally stop asking which gender the victim belongs to first in their fight against violence.
This is a fallacy that’s been deconstructed so many fucking times the fact im about to do it again for you makes my tummy hurt a little bit but ill do it anyways
You’re interpreting that quote as there being either one issue we can globally engage in, or another. But that’s not how it is. You could also go into any thread talking about violence against dogs, or violence against the elderly, or against Palestinians, and make the same annoying pointless whataboutism and you wouldn’t technically be incorrect that violence against men is just as valid, but you’d still receive backlash every time. Why? Because you’re using this issue that’s near to your heart, violence against men, and instead of engaging with it in an honest attempt to improve the situation, you’re simply weaponizing it against others and their cherished social issues to the benefit of literally nobody.
You put activist in quotes but let me ask you, what op eds have you written? What charities have you donated to, nonprofits have you volunteered for? How many bricks have you thrown? I guarantee you none, because every single time I see someone doing the shit you’re doing, it’s the extent of their “activism,” and THATS where the quotation marks belong, on your shit, not anyone else’s.
I can both engage in the issue and try to point out bigotry about it online. The sheer fact that the post only talks about “violence against women” instead of “violence itself” makes comments like mine necessary, I’m afraid. It’s saddening to see that not all violence is condemned with the same energy by some.
No sorry, it doesn’t make comments like yours necessary and if you want to know why scroll up and read again
What makes these kinds of comments necessary is uneven media coverage.
You cannot look at a situation where the split is 45/55 max, probably non-existent when including psychological violence, and it’s reported in a 95/5 fashion, and then say “Nono you can’t mention the 5 in the context of the 95 you’re taking away attention”. Check your privilege. All you’re doing here is obfuscating the issue, reinforcing the eternal female victim vs. eternal male perpetrator narrative which do I need to mention it is not just essentialist AF but provably wrong (again: 45/55).
This is why the average women doesn’t want to have anything to do with card-carrying feminism: Because they’re not sexist, and feminism by and large has failed to address its internal sexism problem, opting instead for institutionalised cattiness. Which the average women prefers just as much as the average man prefers to get into a fistfight: Neither do. Chillax.
Now imagine what you’d sound like if my brick hits a woman lmao
I don’t even know what you’re trying to say
You obviously don’t give a shit enough to become an activist for your own opinions, otherwise you’d be out there too. Instead you’re here hijacking unrelated threads for it. You probably just get off on online controversy like so many other useless trolls.
You obviously don’t give a shit enough to become an activist for your own opinions
No, you are wrong. However, it is perfectly reasonable to be an activist and still post on social media sometimes.
unrelated
Also no.
You’re the kind of person that tells someone that got shot that you also stubbed your toe last week and it hurt really bad too.
Have you tried to make your point without comparing the people first? It could help.
Man this is, I am pretty sure, the most irony laden post I’ve seen on Lemmy.
