I feel like âmansplainingâ has lost all meaning
Yeah, they misused the term.
Mr. Solomon handled it was correct - ask if they want your input and respect their answer.
You forgot step #3! Not whine about it online.
He offered, they declined, we didnât need to hear about it. The only reason we heard about it is because he felt slighted, or is trying to make some anti-feminist point. Iâm sad that he felt bad, but not everyone is going to want the free stuff youâre offering. That doesnât make them bad people, or feminism a bad movement.
So if a female biologist who wrote a PHD thesis on the origins of RNA overheard some men talking about the origins of life and when the women wants to chime in because she is a subject matter expert, the men tell her they âdonât need a black womanâs explanationâ. And after being told this she is in the wrong for venting online? Please. Your just as sexist as the people you claim to be opposed to.
You cannot in good faith compare people who have suffered because if their skin color to those who have not, when talking about situations where skin color comes up.
Are both situations racist by pure definition? Sure. Just like punching a man and punching a child are both punching. One is much more wrong.
One racially motivated act (say hitting someone because of their skin color) is not any more or less racist depending on the race of the victim. If you believe that, it is by definition a racist value youâre holding.
Thereâs a difference when it comes to contextual, social and historical factors. Like the word cracker is insensitive but doesnât carry the hateful connotations and discrimination that the N-word possesses.
But anyone trying to say itâs more or less appropriate to hate on any single group is just demonstrating their own implicit and explicit racial biases.
As a brown person. It doesnât matter what color you are. Someoneâs race shouldnât matter at all when comparing how fucked up something is unless itâs directly culturally relevant.
A white guy vs black woman RNA paper writing PhD being told gtfo is equally offensive. Race only matter like if you told the white guy vs black woman something like a joke about picking cotton or the white guy a joke about him fucking his sister.
Telling someone âyou donât matter / you are the enemyâ for over a decade and to millions of people is how an actual white nationalist movement became a thing. You can only tell people how horrible and evil they are until they start to believe in it.
I was just saying that bc it seemed too cynical when you said we didnât need to hear about it at all. I guess I donât 100% know his intent either but there hasnât been any reason to doubt it so far.
Yup, and itâs fine, until the guy above me starts to comment on their choice of words.
It can either be a funny note where we all laugh, or it can be an analysis of peopleâs word choice and reaction. When itâs the latter, his whining will be met by my whining, until all the whining stops :-P
Yeah, they misused the term.
You forgot step #3! Not whine about it online.
He offered, they declined, we didnât need to hear about it. The only reason we heard about it is because he felt slighted, or is trying to make some anti-feminist point. Iâm sad that he felt bad, but not everyone is going to want the free stuff youâre offering. That doesnât make them bad people, or feminism a bad movement.
So if a female biologist who wrote a PHD thesis on the origins of RNA overheard some men talking about the origins of life and when the women wants to chime in because she is a subject matter expert, the men tell her they âdonât need a black womanâs explanationâ. And after being told this she is in the wrong for venting online? Please. Your just as sexist as the people you claim to be opposed to.
You cannot in good faith compare people who have suffered because if their skin color to those who have not, when talking about situations where skin color comes up.
Are both situations racist by pure definition? Sure. Just like punching a man and punching a child are both punching. One is much more wrong.
Fuck all that noiseâŠ
One racially motivated act (say hitting someone because of their skin color) is not any more or less racist depending on the race of the victim. If you believe that, it is by definition a racist value youâre holding.
Thereâs a difference when it comes to contextual, social and historical factors. Like the word cracker is insensitive but doesnât carry the hateful connotations and discrimination that the N-word possesses.
But anyone trying to say itâs more or less appropriate to hate on any single group is just demonstrating their own implicit and explicit racial biases.
As a brown person. It doesnât matter what color you are. Someoneâs race shouldnât matter at all when comparing how fucked up something is unless itâs directly culturally relevant.
A white guy vs black woman RNA paper writing PhD being told gtfo is equally offensive. Race only matter like if you told the white guy vs black woman something like a joke about picking cotton or the white guy a joke about him fucking his sister.
Telling someone âyou donât matter / you are the enemyâ for over a decade and to millions of people is how an actual white nationalist movement became a thing. You can only tell people how horrible and evil they are until they start to believe in it.
Itâs not anti-feminist to laugh at the irony of saying no to the MIB writer clarifying the origins of the story. Itâs just a goofy story lol.
And if he wrote it to be a goofy story, then Iâm with you. I donât know his intent.
I was just saying that bc it seemed too cynical when you said we didnât need to hear about it at all. I guess I donât 100% know his intent either but there hasnât been any reason to doubt it so far.
Itâs a funny anecdote from the creator of Men in Black about being shut down for mansplaining the origins of Men in Black. Yikes.
Yup, and itâs fine, until the guy above me starts to comment on their choice of words.
It can either be a funny note where we all laugh, or it can be an analysis of peopleâs word choice and reaction. When itâs the latter, his whining will be met by my whining, until all the whining stops :-P