• NutWrench@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    What exactly is the “context” for doing a full-on nazi salute? Other than to show everyone that you’re a nazi?

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      27 minutes ago

      Heres context. At the time I didnt put together that he really meant the national kind. muskSocialist

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      53 minutes ago

      I don’t like Elon. I think he’s not very smart, and I want him far from the government. I suspect he’s cozying up to Trump to get funding for SpaceX, and electric vehicle subsidies, and he’ll probably continue his underhanded battle against any kind of good public transit.

      If you watch it as a video, he says “my heart goes out to you”, puts his hand on his heart, then does a throwing motion, that ends with his hand up, and out to the side. Then he turns to a different part of the crowd, and does the same motion again.

      It’s not an accident, it’s an awkward gesture, because he’s an awkward person. A Nazi salute has the arm held up, and directly forward from the shoulder for some time. His arm is out to the side, and only there for a moment. Unfortunately, there are probably neonazis too stupid to know the differences.

      Treating everything as Nazi symbolism means that more and more people won’t hear alarm bells when you say there’s Nazi imagery, so the media pushing hoaxes like this is bad for public discourse as a whole.

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        44 minutes ago

        There are gifs of side by side comparison with literally Hitler doing the exact same movement. There side by side gifs with neo-nazis doing the exact same movement. You have Germans saying “Yeah, that was totally a nazi salute”. You have historians saying it was a nazi salute.

        But okay, let’s say it wasn’t a Nazi salute. There’s mainstream sentiment clearly indicating that people thought it was a Nazi salute and he definitely is aware of that sentiment. Why hasn’t he said “it wasn’t a nazi salute. I never intended to make it seem like it was.”? Any sane person would instantly try to distance themselves from being perceived as a Nazi because nobody, besides a dumbass nazi, would want to be associated with nazis.

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        48 minutes ago

        It’s literally, a nazi salute. And I don’t use the word literally often.

        The only thing disturbing aside from the salute is people like you defending it

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      13 hours ago

      It’s right out of Trump’s playbook. You do something outrageous and evil, with just a smidgen of deniability… it gets them attention. That’s what they crave, to lead the news cycle, to be hated by the left but maintain enough deniability that the center and right will still be on your side. This is Trump 101.

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        That is the fascist playbook. Testing the water to see what you can get away with now while normalising new levels of evil.

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      19 hours ago

      He said the magic words “my heart to you” clearly clarifies that his salute was meant to be that, duh /s

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        12 hours ago

        You mean well before what he actually said during the sieg heils

        “It is thanks to you, that the future of civilization is assured.”

        =

        Elon Musk inner thoughts: I should Nazi salute. Do it. Do it you pussy. Think of the news it’ll generate. Think of all the votes, oh god I’ll make all the democrats cry that I’m a nazi when I’m not even a nazi! Fuck, lets do it!

        nazi salute

        Oh god that was awkward as fuck. Okay, let’s do it twice, then make sure they know I’m serious and it wasn’t just some weird fucked up tic I do.

        SIEG HEILS even harder

        MMHPPHPHPHHHHHHHH SUCK IT AOC.

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      14 hours ago

      Heat of the moment, not everyone you don’t like is a Nazi

      At least those are the excuses I’ve seen