Why are we talking about how difficult it would be? It’s not acceptable, we don’t want it, and we make the decisions about our nation.
we make the decisions about our nation.
of course you do
Lol
why are we still discussing it then?
that was clearly meant just to provoke.
Nobody wants this. Canadians don’t want this. Americans don’t want this. Just our stupid vice president, Trump. (Maybe his daddy, Putin.)
I would rather annex the US into Canada so that we get a much better health care system.
lets please downvote and heavily criticize the people amplifying trump’s voice?
Because Trump actually does want to use economic warfare against an ally to at the very least gain control of Canada’s resources if not get get political control of Canada. Tariffs are coming next week.
Like Quebec would ever say “Yes”…
Can Canada just annex NYS then? No need to merge them all together, just take my state for now, and see how it goes.
All right but you have to agree that Montreal make the better bagels.
As a non-NYC resident, I will accept this.
I’m intrigued now. As a dumb American in Florida, I didn’t even know Montreal had a claim for this. I must have a Montreal bagel.
I think NYC tries to claim it. I guess Montreal too?
Whatever, I’m getting cheese fries, but will agree to most anything if it means NY becomes Canada.
I’ll even say Hamilton has the best chicken wings, if that’s what it takes!
I guess Montreal bagels are sweeter and cruncher, and NY bagels are bigger and doughier?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/abbyzinman/new-york-vs-montreal-bagel-showdown
You don’t start off a “this will never be acceptable” with a list of things that would need to be resolved; it just turns it into a negotiation.
i dunno about you but i’d love it if new england became a canadian province, can we just like literally do the exact opposite of what the mandarin chief wants and let canada absorb some of the US? please? Fucking PRETTY PLEASE???
😉 You folks have a funny accent, you should take New Scotland, New Brunswick, NFLD and Labrador because they talk funny too. (jkg of course)
i’m from western MA so they don’t have to worry about me talking about Pahkin da Cah at Hahvahd Yahd :p
would joining the two countries be better for everyone? in some ways, yes . in a lot of ways, no
but no matter what way you spin it. it falls flat on its face after a bucket of cold realism is thrown over you.
The reality is Canadians would lose their rights as citizens and would be at best, passengers living in poverty. and at worst, would be slaveshundreds of thousands would go into poverty, be imprisoned by the occupants for not following their rules, or just straight up be deported or murdered. and yes I said occupants, it would be a military occupation for generations before the occupants even thought the new territory was ready to have some new states carved out. Until then look no further than Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine, what goes on there? Natives are evicted and killed, Immigrants from the “core” are shipped in to take their homes, the news shows off some north korean style tranquil scenes of everything working out fine, and there’s small fake ballot stuffed elections to pretend all is well since the takeover.
there are a select few things I’d be envious of being part of the US over. but the fact remains that im not a fucking idiot, and It would be a net negative for every single person in my country. I’m not going to play devils advocate for people who would be trying to kill us
Cowboys vs Canadians.
Canadian Reservations.
Canadian Residential Schools. In Texas. No ice rink.
Free blankets.
Exclusive Rights to all curling related gambling.
Cheap whiskey and cigarettes on the reservation.
Yeah we already have our own trailer trash parks and fucked up reservations thanks. Don’t need to throw gas on a flame
Yeah it would involve war. I don’t want war with my neighbors. I want a good alliance with them and maybe even the sort of border they have over in Europe. War would be stupid on America’s part and not resisting with military force if needed would be stupid on Canada’s part
What? No it wouldn’t!
I mean yes it would in application. But the human species has been invading and changing governments in other countries since the dawn of time.
It’s possible. I assure you.
And I also wouldn’t be upset if it happened. As an American.
You’re not welcome here.
This is a world news sub… Not a patriotic America is awesome sub.
You’re not welcome here.
Then why are you advocating for Canada to be merged into the US? Do you have it backwards?
Once again this is a world news sub, not a ‘patriotic America is awesome’ sub—so why are you acting like dissenting opinions aren’t welcome? I said I wouldn’t be against America merging into Canada, and instead of engaging with that idea, you’re just telling me to leave. If you actually disagree, make an argument instead of trying to police who gets to participate.
The general opinion around the world is that your country has gone to shit. You’re welcome to have your opinions but the rest of us are equally welcome to call you a moron.
I’m not the one who said to leave. I’m confused why you would say you agree with the title, which is anti-US, and then say this community (not sub - that’s a Reddit term) isn’t “America is awesome.” The title says “Merging Canada into the US,” not “America merging into Canada.” Huge difference.
As an American, I’d be upset if it happened. It’s bonkers to just be like, “oh other sovereign nation NBD you no longer exist,” absolute madness.
Besides we could just (re)negotiate the trade agreements we have in place which apparently are so bad. I wonder who did a bad job with them last time we changed the framework and name of NAFTA … Oh right the Trump admin.
There’s no good reason, in my point of view, we couldn’t have an equivalent to the EU for North and South America - freedom of movement, establishing standards, less friction when it comes to trade - but that would require some true visionaries with a lot of influence and power to work. I doubt it would come to be but I wouldn’t be upset if it happened.
Won’t someone please rid us of the meddling orange man and his sad lonely billionaire buddy.
I totally agree.
Canadians don’t have an effective military.
Are they suggesting they would resist the US by force? That’d be a bad idea, way worse than joining.
Nah. Fucking do it. Let’s start WWIII. At this point it would be USA against Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Panama, Greenland, Ukraine…
Let’s get the entire world to gang up on America like we ganged up on Germany a few years ago
Greenland brings in Denmark and Denmark all of Europe
And Canada all of the Commonwealth
NATO also doesn’t specify that the attacker is excluded if they were a NATO member. It just states if an attacker hits one of the members article 5 goes into effect. So an attack on Canada brings 31 countries against the U.S.
That’s not a war, dude.
World War 3 is a war.
Yeah, start a war with a nation you share the longest unsecured boarder with, filled with people who look and sound like you, who also have a history of record geneva convention additions. That sounds like a great idea, what with the USs great track record at winning wars of insurgencies…
A lot of these hypotheticals can be answered by “we’ll just slaughter anyone who makes a fuss” because that’s where our country’s moral framework will be if we ever march troops across the border. Like an ultra nationalist fascist state is going to concern itself with old treaties and popular sentiments.
From a Canadian prespective, we would commit all the war crimes we could against an invading force, especially one we could not fight a conventional war against and win.
Im talking sending American GIs home in unrecognizable condition.
I dont care what government is in power by then. Invade Canada and be prepared to die in horrible ways, mutilated, and sent back to your loved ones in chunks.
This is the only way we could win a war against the US and we would not hesitate to do it.
I’ve noticed this bluster among Canadians.
It’s just bluster. I think surrendering is in your blood thanks to the French.
Winning wars and then losing the occupation is in your very recent history.
If by recent you mean at least a third of America’s history (longer if you count the complete lack of change in the south as a failed outcome), then yes. Recent.
Hey hey hey dont fucking sully our vast history! Losing occupancy has been a staple of ALL of American history.
The Geneva checklist
You shouldn’t hesitate. And some USians would like to join you in eradicating the fascists.
Realistically, we are so fucked. One single bomb on a highway or railway can completely decimate any one of our province’s ability to move people or goods and perform services. Our border is too long and wild to be defendable. And they could probably take out our entire military logistics in a single night of bombings. All of this isn’t even to mention that if they wanted to go all out insane they could make nuclear threats if the Canadian government doesn’t capitulate. I’m not saying we couldn’t resist once occupied, it’s just fucking hideous to think about.
Im referring to resistance. We dont stand a chance in a regular engagement.
Yeah, no. There will be no “canadian resistance.”
Lol. Anyone who tries to form some resistance will be charged with terrorism and made an example of.
You’re all bark and no bite. Canadians would rather live as Americans than die as Canadians. It’s just a fact of life.
I’m a dual citizen and I’d sooner burn my American passport. Americans who think like this can get fucked and suck Donnie’s tiny fingers.
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I no longer live in a boarder state but if brown coats started marching north they would have to get there first.
That would be stupid. When Italians were conscripted to fight against British soldiers in Africa, most of them didn’t even like Mussolini. So what did they do? The surrendered and sat the rest of the war out.
That wouldn’t have happened if the allies had a policy of mutilating their prisoners.
Fascism is a hate movement, and hatred is self-destructive. You can’t defeat an enemy with hatred you’ll only destroy yourself.
Offer an out for those that want to sit it out. Those that won’t, are targets that need to be eliminated. Not a target of your fucked up torture fantasies.
To be clear, you think there would be an actual war with any safe space to store prisoners? The US would roll over Canada’s military in any open conflict, and crush any official bases. Any war would be entirely guerilla warfare, in which case taking prisoners is entirely unrealistic
Yep, occupied territory doesn’t have much opportunity for holding defectors, because it can be hard to prevent infiltration. Behind front lines is different though.
Nah. If Americans invade its open season. No mercy.
Why would anyone think twice about this ridiculous word fart from a demented rapist?
Move on, nothing to see here.
What about going the other way, we take up the metric system and coins for our 1 and 2 dollars instead of paper bills?
Aviation has just got its dick stuck too hard in the imperial can. Having to teach material where g=32 makes me want to eat glass.
In terms of the metric system, just tell Americans that they’re still using the occupier’s system (British redcoats). 😉
Ugh, we’re not even. We’re using the US customary system, which uses the British words but aren’t the same values as British Imperial values. They’re actually pegged to the metric system, so if the definition of a kilometer changed, so would the definition of a mile.
We’re using metric with extra steps. Not to mention certain products are already in metric, and everything else has the metric on it already.
Oh, that’s interesting.
We’ve tried dollar coins a couple times.
But never with taking away the bills. Get rid if the bills and force the coins and voilà.
too many stripper injuries
That seems like a losing move for not a lot of benefit.
Yeah, no idea on the pros and cons of dollar coins, just that they’ll never take off while there are still bills circulating.
My guess would be a knee jerk response like the move away from incandescent bulbs.
I barely even use cash at this point so I’m not sure what the actual implications would be.
Aren’t dollar coins used in the US? Because I’ve used them in dollarized economies (e.g. Ecuador) and I assumed they were fairly standard everywhere.
They exist but are not circulated in nearly enough quantity so we basically collect them as oddities.
We have them but they’re somewhat uncommon. I needed three for a project recently and had to go well out of my way to find them
i only see them in Las Vegas, where theres millions of them.
The U.S. already uses the metric system in strategic areas like the military, space exploration and scientific research.
It would be quite cost prohibitive to replace all the road signs so we’re keeping the imperial system for day to day stuff.
It’s too bad they took away all the dual marked road signs when that dick Reagan killed the conversion to metric.
There’s no discussion. Fuck off or declare war