Hyundai and Kia are recalling a combined 3.37 million vehicles in the United States due to the risk of engine fires, telling owners to park outside and away from structures until repairs are complete.
I cannot for the life of me begin to understand who would still want to buy a kia. The company fucking cuts so many corners that inevitably cost the consumer, irrespective of the engine itself being completely unremarkable.
Is quality control between US and Europe different here? Haven’t had a single issue with my Kia Rio since I bought it 8 years ago.
Besides the motor being lackluster performance wise, but I knew that going in. But hey, for 14k€ (including A/C, navigation, rear camera) it was still a deal.
Very, very different. Remember when Fords were bulletproof reliable? Say that in the States and you’d get laughed out of the room. And that’s one of their own companies lol
I’ve owned lots of Fords in the US over the years and there’s nothing worse about them than any other manufacturer as a general rule.
Sure, there are exceptions and people will always take their own anecdotal experiences to heart as indicative of larger problems as a whole with a manufacturer but they make fine vehicles.
In fact, one of my current vehicles is a 2011 Escape that I’ve had for years and I’ve got no major problems with or complaints about it.
I cannot for the life of me understand why people would live in a country where this is allowed just because a bunch of congressmen need a new yacht or child slave or whatever they do with their money
The US median income is $31k/year, so anyone who makes more than that is in the top half you describe. At exactly what income level do you suggest unsafe vehicles is no longer a concern? Because I guarantee the senators and Congress reps are driving the same cars everyone else is with a few exceptions.
First off, auto issues and recalls are a dime a dozen in the EU as well. Often for things like airbags which is far more likely to hurt you. Second, around 75k a year was when I felt personally comfortable buying a nicer car but ymmv.
Well, the person I was replying to said that people allow unsafe cars because the top half live quite well. My point is that the top half includes many people who are financially struggling, and even people doing ok drive the same cars so of course they wouldn’t want them to be unsafe.
I appreciate the note on the EU though. I imagine most places have similar difficulties in managing auto safety
They are shit cars, but this is nothing compared to the other car manufacturers; sticking pedals on Toyotas (21 dead), Ford Pinto (500-900 dead, was an $11 part production deemed unnecessary), GM knew about a faulty switch in 2003 but only fixed it in 2014 (and 174 deaths), Volkswagen lied about emissions causing god knows how much damage, even airbags have killed like 24 people due to a defect. The list is endless, and no car company is better than the other.
Just wait for the inevitable fanboy posts that always use the same verbiage, accusing jealousy because Hyundai is “killing it” (oh, they’re killing something alright) and that all cars have problems, and theirs hasn’t had any problems.
I cannot for the life of me begin to understand who would still want to buy a kia. The company fucking cuts so many corners that inevitably cost the consumer, irrespective of the engine itself being completely unremarkable.
Just btw, outside of the US, Kias and Hyundais are excellent cars. Something something fool and his money are easily parted something 😂
Is quality control between US and Europe different here? Haven’t had a single issue with my Kia Rio since I bought it 8 years ago.
Besides the motor being lackluster performance wise, but I knew that going in. But hey, for 14k€ (including A/C, navigation, rear camera) it was still a deal.
Very, very different. Remember when Fords were bulletproof reliable? Say that in the States and you’d get laughed out of the room. And that’s one of their own companies lol
I’ve owned lots of Fords in the US over the years and there’s nothing worse about them than any other manufacturer as a general rule.
Sure, there are exceptions and people will always take their own anecdotal experiences to heart as indicative of larger problems as a whole with a manufacturer but they make fine vehicles.
In fact, one of my current vehicles is a 2011 Escape that I’ve had for years and I’ve got no major problems with or complaints about it.
My Ford, every year since 2015, there’s a new recall where I had to bring it back to a dealership. I think in 2019, there were two of them.
I don’t have any experience with other manufacturers, but if this is the state of car ownership… fuck that.
I own a 2012 Kia soul in the US and it’s been a great car.
Yeah, a great car that you can literally steal with a usb
I cannot for the life of me understand why people would live in a country where this is allowed just because a bunch of congressmen need a new yacht or child slave or whatever they do with their money
Because the top half live quite well. At least competitive with every country in Europe and gets better and better once you start pulling in 125k+.
The US median income is $31k/year, so anyone who makes more than that is in the top half you describe. At exactly what income level do you suggest unsafe vehicles is no longer a concern? Because I guarantee the senators and Congress reps are driving the same cars everyone else is with a few exceptions.
First off, auto issues and recalls are a dime a dozen in the EU as well. Often for things like airbags which is far more likely to hurt you. Second, around 75k a year was when I felt personally comfortable buying a nicer car but ymmv.
Well, the person I was replying to said that people allow unsafe cars because the top half live quite well. My point is that the top half includes many people who are financially struggling, and even people doing ok drive the same cars so of course they wouldn’t want them to be unsafe.
I appreciate the note on the EU though. I imagine most places have similar difficulties in managing auto safety
They are shit cars, but this is nothing compared to the other car manufacturers; sticking pedals on Toyotas (21 dead), Ford Pinto (500-900 dead, was an $11 part production deemed unnecessary), GM knew about a faulty switch in 2003 but only fixed it in 2014 (and 174 deaths), Volkswagen lied about emissions causing god knows how much damage, even airbags have killed like 24 people due to a defect. The list is endless, and no car company is better than the other.
Bikes ftw.
Firestone and Ford (271 died)
Yeah, why buy a Kia when you can just steal one with a USB cable?
They are cheaper than Honda and Toyota.
Just wait for the inevitable fanboy posts that always use the same verbiage, accusing jealousy because Hyundai is “killing it” (oh, they’re killing something alright) and that all cars have problems, and theirs hasn’t had any problems.