• IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    If you were a German in 1938 and two Wermacht soldiers were accused of spying for the USSR, you would be saying the exact same thing as you are now. I say this not as a dunk, but as a solemn acknowledgement that we are all products of our social environment. I don’t think you’re stupid, or a “bad person” (whatever that means) but I do think you should stop and consider the path that uncritically accepting your government’s narratives about their rivals can lead you down.

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      You’re probably giving them too much credit. The spies would have to be US or UK, or puppets of those regimes, for them to say what we’re saying. I suspect they don’t favor the USSR over the Nazis.

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        The spies would have to be US or UK

        Doesn’t matter, if they were a German in 1938, they would have also hoped the Nazis locked up these communist spies in the same way as they would hope the Nazis would lock up a spy for the US.

        (Although I can’t help but feel like anyone who would spy for the US supported the Nazis…)

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      Nice WW2 reference from somebody supporting a corrupt genocidal regime lol how many people were starved to death by their dumbass government during the lost decade again? Like 10 million? And last time I checked we aren’t holding any minorities in concentration camps like piss ant Pooh boy Lol you deserve to lick that shit stained boot

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        And last time I checked we aren’t holding any minorities in concentration camps

        You must have never checked then, the US has never not had minorities in concentration camps.

        Currently, I believe we called them “ICE detention facilities” and “prisons”

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            Yes, because letting people who cannot survive on their own, into your country is real smart.

            You know the EU is dealing with this same shit from immigrants from the middle east right?

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              The U.S. and EU shouldn’t be allowed to speak on immigration after all the wars and coups they did in the countries they’re racist about getting immigrants from.

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          Almost like both sides are wrong and supporting the us government or the Chinese government is both bad.

          Just kinda seems like China is a little more blatantly evil…

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              Sure. That’s a single specific instance of a good thing. You can do the same for the US.

              Reminds me of the phrase, “good people do bad things and bad people do good things.”

              I sincerely don’t understand how anyone can be so supportive towards ANY government.

              Support the people, not the tyrants.

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                I confused you for the other person who was accusing China of starving millions of people.

                Is it really that hard to believe that not every government is tyrannical, and that some actually care about their citizens though?

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                  Sure. Not the Chinese government tho.

                  Support the people not the government, is my opinion.

                  Why are you so pro ccp?

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                    Until we reach some kind of stateless Communist society, what exactly do you want? The U.S. to overthrow the government and install sympathizers to its own interests?

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        Congratulations, you managed to almost fit every deranged liberal take into one post. You forgot to try to squeeze something about social credit in there.