- cross-posted to:
- buycanadian@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- buycanadian@lemmy.ca
This is an update to: List of American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.
It is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0.
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Great list… but make it more obvious that there’s a Canadian list. With such a busy graphic some people, like myself, might initially mistake the graphic at one list instead of 2.
Sorry for posting here but I couldn’t comment on the .ca link.
Yes I can see your point, and you’re not the first one to mention this. I’ve updated the infographic.
This is why I had placed the CBC Radio Canada at the top, with the hope that people would stop and think for a moment.
I’ll try to make it better, but I’m prioritizing information density and just to be more informative than the other one.
If it really bothers you that much, you can also take the content, and change it yourself, as the infographic is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0.
Small FYI, a lot of Americans think Reuters is American, but it’s owned by a Canadian billionaire.
I wanted to avoid highlighting for profit media, because of the relative ease of being acquired (as many already have by Americans).
These non profit media outlets will remain so long as they have an audience.
I can delete it if you want.
Why? It’s not hurting anyone
Ya know, if it’s not in line with your thinking.
Ya know, if it’s not in line with your thinking.
I appreciate the gesture, but you do raise an important point, that Reuters, despite being Canadian, was not included.
I believe in a healthy democracy, we must allow for discussion, even if it is unflattering (unless it’s hurting someone), therefore you should do as you please.
And before that, it was British, founded by a German guy. Still headquartered in London. Do people from the US really think every relevant org is from there?
Do people from the US really think every relevant org is from there?
Yes they do.
American exceptionalism is a thing. (And has been since the 1800s)
What the fuck are you saying LaPresse and LeDevoir are American owned??? That’s not true at all!LaPresse is owned by the non-profit LaPresse Inc. It’s completely independant!
And Le Devoir is owned by Le Devoir Inc. A completely 100% Québécois company. They are also 100% independant. (And pro-independance 😉)
Pl
ease fix that image because it’s not factual at all.EDIT: I NEED GLASSES FFS!
I didn’t see there were two sides where one was for “Canadian owned”. My bad…
It’s okay, you’re not the first one. I was trying to prioritize information density, and unfortunately this will be an unwanted side effect.
I’ve made some changes in the meanwhile to lessen the chances of this confusion happening, but I don’t think it’ll be avoided entirely.
LoL thank you for making it more obvious for us dummies. 😅
Thanks for your feedback! Imagine how many more people would be confused!
I get the majority of my news from CBC. Looks like that’s good 👍
I really like that wiggly guy on the APTN logo. They give a good vibe just dancing in front of the sunset :)
additionally the next labour government needs to overturn harpers rules that led to the american companies buying up all the media.
Why is Winnipeg Free Press missing?
I wanted to avoid highlighting for profit media, because of the relative ease of being acquired (as many already have by Americans).
These non-profit media outlets will remain so long as they have an audience.
Fair enough, Winnipeg Free Press is a large Canadian media org, but they are indeed for profit and potentially biased that way.
Thanks for being understanding!
Yes, it’s the fear of being acquired, and to a lesser extent being a for profit institution means potential conflict of interest.
If it really bothers you that much, you can also take the content, and add it yourself, as the infographic is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0.
Perhaps just an addendum explaining that profit-driven Canadian news outlets are not included here due to the risk of being swayed by American interests.
APTN is worth including on the right side there eh. It’s a national network.
Edit: OK let me elaborate my case.
- The Aboriginal Peoples Television Network is a nonprofit organization out of Winnipeg with the same kind of license and mandate as CBC.
- Broadcast over the air in a few places but on all cable carriers, usually up above ch.60 or so.
- Available streaming through apps on various platforms also.
- Low budget and focused on the issues of indigenous folks, it nevertheless is important to settler Canadians in rounding out the picture of what’s actually going on in Canada, as these issues are often underrepresented in ’settler’ media, not just due to cultural orientation, but because a lot of the news is about rural regions.
- APTN is an important part of me being Canadian, even as a settler, as we all reconcile at the end of a long-running genocide. This differentiates us from the USA.
APTN News has been added (thanks for making the case, I just didn’t have time to look into them)
But that also means that I verified every single media outlets on the infographic!
The London Free Press?! For fucks sakes my home city really has gone to shit, thank goodness I left…
What about the Beaverton?
See my comment regarding the Beaverton here.
Basically, I wanted to avoid satirical media.
Came here yo say this :)
Looking at this, it seems to me americans don’t care about us french canadians…I can’t tell if that’s a good thing or not 🤪
Someone should start posting this infographic to other areas of the internet, it contains more information than this infographic.
And it’s licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0.
A big shout out to CHEK TV out of Victoria, fully employee owned and community oriented. News and some investigative long form segments. Free streaming, can watch livestream and shorts as a guest. Apps available for various platforms. Not totally parochial and sometimes very good.
Thanks, I was unaware of CHEK TV. Looks like a great addition!
If you want to support me in my other ventures, I’m also trying to grow the !fairvote@lemmy.ca community.
You may attract more support if your active goals are actually stated where you proclaim they are.
I went to !fairvote and I see: “we did it! We have X number of subscribers!”
But what is your bloody goal?!
Unfortunately, I don’t have that level of control to be able to set what you’d be able to see on a particular day.
But what is your bloody goal?!
Sure, that’s a fair point, but also it’s what the community sidebar was made for.
Jeez, you, @Sunshine@lemmy.ca, etc. are worse than the stereotypes of vegans or crossfitters. I support election reform and would be very happy with proportional representation, but you guys are too much!
It’s fine to disagree but stereotyping and tagging another community member because they made one post about Canadian vegan products is uncivil.
Don’t be a dick. Let’s not turn Lemmy into a snarky reddit sub.
I was not intentionally commenting on someone’s veganism, just the stereotype that a vegan or crossfitter will bring that into every conversation, whether it’s related or not.
I appreciate how much the two users you highlighted contribute to lemmy.ca and promote a vision of action and hope, especially in these times
I genuinely believe growing the movement for proportional representation is a critical - perhaps even more important than buying Canadian.
I apologize if it’s annoying, but you can also block me if you don’t like my content.
And since I did create the content for this post (and I am donating it into the world under CC-BY-NC-SA), shouldn’t I be able to promote my other interests?
I like your content, and I appreciate what you bring to your communities. What I don’t appreciate is how you force your pet project into every discussion. If you weren’t so involved and connected, I would report your comment for being off topic, but I know that’s pointless.
If you truly believe a comment is breaking the rules (e.g. off topic), then report it. Let the mods decide.
It’s better that I spread the word on proportional representation, which would actually help Canada, rather than spewing nonsense, or trying to get people to give me money
There’s a simple solution, just ignore me. But given the fact that you’re seeing my content, means it’s not being downvoted but upvoted, meaning people actually value my content. Blame the game, not the player.
I apologized if you find my content annoying, but that’s not the general case, and overall I think you agree that proportional representation is beneficial, so keep that in mind.
If you truly believe a comment is breaking the rules (e.g. off topic), then report it. Let the mods decide.
And the mods include … oh look, you! Yes, I’m sure a report will be taken seriously…
But given the fact that you’re seeing my content, means it’s not being downvoted but upvoted, meaning people actually value my content.
Just because it’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s following the rules. Just look south of the boarder.
Again, I have no problem with you focusing on your advocacy, it’s just when you bring it to unrelated discussions.
You’re more than welcome to report since they’re not the only mod and it’s helpful to have a record of it.
I’m seeing most of their comments linking that sub in !canada@lemmy.ca and other communities. In this community, they’re active and it makes up a somewhat small and infrequent amount of their comments, so I wouldn’t consider it spam personally.
But if we get reports from more people and the community has a problem with it then I’m happy to have a conversation about limiting or removing those types of comments.
Yes, I’m sure a report will be taken seriously…
I am honestly acting in good faith and taking you seriously right now. If I instead promoted donated money to me directly (which could also be in the same vein of being unrelated discussion), would you have a problem with that? Probably not, but when it’s a cause that actually helps Canada (even if it’s annoying), then it’s a problem? In either case, both (promoting self interests, or proportional representation) would be as obtrusive – which is not much at all.
Just because it’s popular, doesn’t mean it’s following the rules.
I never suggested popular means following the rules. The point I was making is that while you don’t appreciate my content, many others do, so please know that you’re not the only person that exists on this community.
Who suspected the “London free press” to be Canadian? And why are they American?
London Ontario, not London England
Oh dang, another London!
There’s also Paris, Ontario nearby, but that is much smaller.
And likely nicer than Paris, France
Before you know it, there will be dozens!
