Yes, centrists absolutely did. You had the chance to protect democracy, but the filibuster was more important. So now instead of introspection, you blame the progressives you hate even more than the idea of living Palestinians.
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I don’t even know what you think you are arguing against.
You seemed to be arguing for not voting or voting third party rather than voting for Harris with the whole “firefighters” analogy.
I was pointing out that by many not voting, or by voting third party, we’ve ended up with someone who is not only not a firefighter, to continue you analogy, but someone who is actively setting the fires.
Now I hate democracy and progressives and Palestinians apparently? You’ve broken the thread here.
Then what do you mean? No firefighters were running, therefore what? What would be the correct action for a person to take when voting in the 2024 presidential election?
I’m a voter. Presidential election is happening. Both options suck, but one is extra awful.
So the correct action is to run for president myself? And somehow build up grassroots support for myself over a series of 3 months sufficient to win? Too late.
We need someone to do that, yea, but that’s no longer the action being taken in regards to the 2024 election. You still have to: vote Harris, vote Trump, vote for someone with no chance of winning, or not vote.
So while you “grab a hose” which of those 4 actual actions are you taking?
We need firefighters. We didn’t have the option to elect any.
So we allowed the arsonist to get the position when we could have had someone who was at worst ineffective.
Yes, centrists absolutely did. You had the chance to protect democracy, but the filibuster was more important. So now instead of introspection, you blame the progressives you hate even more than the idea of living Palestinians.
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I don’t even know what you think you are arguing against.
You seemed to be arguing for not voting or voting third party rather than voting for Harris with the whole “firefighters” analogy.
I was pointing out that by many not voting, or by voting third party, we’ve ended up with someone who is not only not a firefighter, to continue you analogy, but someone who is actively setting the fires.
Now I hate democracy and progressives and Palestinians apparently? You’ve broken the thread here.
That is the assumption from centrists every time someone wants them to be better, yes.
Then what do you mean? No firefighters were running, therefore what? What would be the correct action for a person to take when voting in the 2024 presidential election?
Therefore they should have grabbed a hose.
How does that even apply?
I’m a voter. Presidential election is happening. Both options suck, but one is extra awful.
So the correct action is to run for president myself? And somehow build up grassroots support for myself over a series of 3 months sufficient to win? Too late.
We need someone to do that, yea, but that’s no longer the action being taken in regards to the 2024 election. You still have to: vote Harris, vote Trump, vote for someone with no chance of winning, or not vote.
So while you “grab a hose” which of those 4 actual actions are you taking?
You literally can’t imagine candidates changing for the better?