Someone working towards communism is a communist. A state that is working towards communism is a communist state.
Whether the state is actually trying to make itself obsolete is a different thing.
But that of course isn’t what they said even if might be what they meant. A communist society implies it has achieved communism because language is fun.
I would argue that a state can’t make that transition, as it is contrary to the structural organization and power dynamics of the state. So much so, that its effectively useless to label a state “moving towards communism” as communist. The closest a state ever got to actually doing that was Yugoslavia and that ended the minute Tito died. The term “communism” has been muddied by western propaganda and state capitalists co-opting the term. I think making the distinction is worthwhile and provides mutual understanding when people are communicating about something that has become so obfuscated
Since states aren’t real things with wills of their own and there are only people and their social constructs, you’re effectively arguing that it is impossible for anyone to act honestly or for altruistic purposes.
No system can withstand the people who make it up acting in bad faith. That does not mean that is impossible for systems to have integrity on the whole.
Communism describes a stateless, classless, moneyless society. A communist society with a central authority definitionally cannot exist
Someone working towards communism is a communist. A state that is working towards communism is a communist state.
Whether the state is actually trying to make itself obsolete is a different thing.
But that of course isn’t what they said even if might be what they meant. A communist society implies it has achieved communism because language is fun.
I would argue that a state can’t make that transition, as it is contrary to the structural organization and power dynamics of the state. So much so, that its effectively useless to label a state “moving towards communism” as communist. The closest a state ever got to actually doing that was Yugoslavia and that ended the minute Tito died. The term “communism” has been muddied by western propaganda and state capitalists co-opting the term. I think making the distinction is worthwhile and provides mutual understanding when people are communicating about something that has become so obfuscated
Since states aren’t real things with wills of their own and there are only people and their social constructs, you’re effectively arguing that it is impossible for anyone to act honestly or for altruistic purposes.
No system can withstand the people who make it up acting in bad faith. That does not mean that is impossible for systems to have integrity on the whole.