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      Guy on the bottom left is the dude who runs Second Thought channel on YouTube and unless I’m mistaken I don’t believe he’s ever simped for Iran. Smells like some bull in here.

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        He’s a contributor to the Deprogram podcast, which absolutely has played apologist for Iran.

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          I’m not clear - is this guilt by association, he contributes to that podcast and others on the podcast have played apologist for Iran, or he specifically praises Iran?

          Further, do they speak positively of the current regime (eg Khamenei, as pictured) or Iran’s plight in general?

          Because it makes a big difference, to me at least.

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            I’m not clear - is this guilt by association, he contributes to that podcast and others on the podcast have played apologist for Iran, or he specifically praises Iran?

            He’s one of the three fucking hosts, man, it’s not an ensemble cast; at that point, whoever’s voice is talking, you’re part of the fucking apologia.

            Further, do they speak positively of the current regime (eg Khamenei, as pictured)

            Of the current regime. Khomeini is pictured as representative of the Islamic Republic as a whole.

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              I’ve been browsing r/thedeprogram on Reddit for a bit today to get a feel for the attitudes. Seems complex with some rational and some extremist views. I see a lot of people speaking very anti-Iran leadership, eg “I was, as I am now for the overthrow of the brutal theocratic Iranian government through self-determination.” (Post from 2 years back, lots of support with 66 upvotes and discussion about iran vs US imperialism etc), but also some absolutely cooked attitudes pro-authoritarianism. Eg “The Great Firewall is so genius, any argument against it is complete garbage.” On a post discussing China supposedly wiping out CIA ops in the country, post from a few days ago.

              This is just their reddit, not the creators direct views, but it gives a great feel for the attitudes they foster. I don’t have the patience or desire to check through a bunch of their podcasts.

              I’ll be taking anything I see from them with a very cautious view though, thanks to your comments.

              P. S. I couldn’t tell which Iranian leader it was from a black & white meme, thought it was a younger image of the current leader (Khamenei), not Khomeini. I see it now 👍

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      I believe they’re all icons of contributors to the Deprogram podcast, which tends to champion very… campist interpretations of international politics.