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    This is so fucked up. Across various social media platforms you have genocidal Zionists loons saying what they want using #KillThemAll, but yet Palestinian voices are being silenced and ol Melon Husk bans the phrase “From the river to the sea…”.

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      Across various social media platforms you have genocidal

      Honestly if you look outside your comforts zone you’ll realise every genocidal maniacs have been hanging out on twitter since its creation. After the terror attack in France we had all the insane islamist praising the asshole, that’s nothing new

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      I agree banning that phrase seems hypocritical but what is wrong with calling for the killing of a militia that killed thousands of civilians? Wouldn’t this be like the killing of osama bin laden after 9/11? Didn’t they kill hundreds of young people at a music festival promoting peace? I’m aware there’s collateral but calling for a ceasefire to protect civilians is the only reason to suggest the killing stops when their enemy has openly stated it will not stop doing this ever. If they want change to their policy of genocide of isralies I’m sure that’s a good start to peace talks but so far I don’t think they have.

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        I think you’re confused. It is Israel committing genocide and have said they will never stop even after all the hostages are released.

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          No, I don’t think I am but may be. Are you saying hamas didn’t kill all those unarmed civilians and are you saying hamas has never stated they have a mandate to destroy the whole of Israel? Please just stick to those two questions and then make any points you want to add after. Thankyou

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          It means different things to different people. There are definitely a few that use it with a genocidal intent. But as you said that he’s not it’s de facto or historical meaning. It has a much longer history than the last few months. Most people complaining about it only just learned of it. And have no idea about its history or what it actually tends to mean.

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          Don’t mind them. They probably felt uncomfortable hearing “Black Lives Matter” too. Saying it’s a call for genocide for white people.

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          Yes, and the end of those “illegal occupiers” too.

          Both sides want to genocide each other, it’s just that Israel is more powerful and Palestine is the underdog

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          Is Kibbutz Be’eri on occupied land?

          Is Tel Aviv on occupied land?

          Is Haifa on occupied land?

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              In other words, “Death to Israel!!!”

              Edit: in before “No no. You have to understand that ‘Death to Israel’ is an aspirational call for peace”

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                So we’re Indians wanting to get rid of the British Raj all genocidal maniacs?

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                  Not a great comparison as Brits have Britain to live in already (I’m British, if it matters).

                  If you displaced the Brits from India back in the day, they could return to Britain.

                  If you displace the Jews from Israel now, where could they go?

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                  I think Jews and Palestinians both need a place where they can feel safe from anyone trying to kill them off since it’s something one group has already been through and the other group is going through right now and both are at risk from it happening again in the future. This means they either need to give one group a new homeland, which, at this point, would be ethnic cleansing of either group, or find a way for them to share one homeland safely. No ethnic cleansing should be allowed and future ethnic cleansing should be prevented to the best of the international community’s ability.

                  Personally, I would prefer UN administration of the region until something equitable for both Jews and Palestinians can be resolved.

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                  Yes and what guarantees for the Israeli. Various palestinian factions have been commiting massacre and pogroms since the 1930’s where they had a german-sized nazi movement.

                  The government is what guaranty people’s right and safety.

                  This is exactly why the Palestinian state exist and Arafat refused to integrate into Israel

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                That’s a leap. It means an end to the illegal occupation, apartheid, and Zionism. Give the land back to the indigenous people. I’ve seen talks of the establishment of a secular state where all can be free, which is the ideal here. Not the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians

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                  Give the land back to the indigenous people.

                  That’s easy to say, but means nothing until you define who the “indigenous people” are, which is an extremely fraught topic in this particular case.

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                  Give the land back to the indigenous people

                  Oh my sweet, sweet summer child. That’s a statement both sides agree on, but not in the way you think

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                  Right…

                  You just called for the destruction of Israel. You just said Tel Aviv, which was built on land purchased from the Bedouin, is on occupied land.

                  You just said that Be’eri is on occupied land. Since it’s on occupied land, then Hamas’ murder of 100 people is justified in your mind.

                  Palestinian policemen massacred non-Zionist Jews in Hebron in 1929. The government of Gaza massacred left-wing Jews in Be’eri in 2023. And you sit here and talk binational bullshit fantasies.

                  From the river to the sea, you want it to be Judenfrei.

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            The Baha’i will not surrender Haifa. That’s our Holy City since you kicked us out of Shiraz and Baghdad. We’ve been there since the Arabs put us there in 1890.

            Edit: sorry Lemmy replied to the wrong comment.

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    I’m not going to twitter to see but are they still using the little blue bird? I thought everything was X now.

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    Musk fired most of the moderators, and those messages are being sent automatically after a certain time period. I did an experiment before - searched for phrases like “death to nationality” and “kill all nationality”, with various nationalities, and reported a dozen each to check if there is any bias: There isn’t, all of them were ignored. I believe any moderators left, if there are still any, work by the queue of most reported first, and the top of the queue is most likely filled with brigaded reports from right wing trolls.

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      If you don’t use specific keywords, there’s essentially no moderation on Twitter right now. All of their moderation is via keyword.

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    Instructions unclear - applied guidance to people named James Woods with a career in acting, born April 18, 1947.

    Aside from Musk’s Nazi tendencies, was this fine because Woods didn’t specify the target of his call to genocide?

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    He could have just decided to be a chill dude, retired from acting, maybe opened a golf pro shop with Jeremy Irons. Or I guess there’s this approach.

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      You’ll find that right wing lunatics are perfectly capable of being both virulently anti-Semitic and dogmatically pro-Israel, especially when being pro-Israel means either fulfilling some prophecy or other from Revelations, or promoting violence against Muslims. The cognitive dissonance of hating Jews while supporting a Jewish ethnostate is secondary to those other things.

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        They think it works like positive and negative charges. Where if they support Israel’s genocide then it cancels out all the antisemitic bullshit they’ve spewed.

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      Elon literally supported a Tweet that said Jews were going to destroy white people.

      You know that, right?

      Or are you going to claim that isn’t antisemitic?

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        Wtf lol I wasn’t making a stance and don’t care about Twitter or Elon. It’s just funny seeing back to back posts claiming completely opposite points as fact.

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      You can probably find a lot of anti semitic stuff on there. Hell Elon was posting some the other day. But that doesn’t mean you aren’t going to find anti Arab / anti muslim shit, or specifically this pro zionist garbage. Remember, there’s a lot of pro zionists who are also white supremacists.

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    Hate speech is only going to speed oversight and regulations to be imposed. Free speech has a limit.

  • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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    I report Nazis and pedophiles on Instagram every fucking day (just go on any APNews post and check the comments). Like literally accounts advertising teenage girls in terrible cryptic speak. Not once have I seen Instagram take action against them.

    But somehow their automated filters can make out a nipple in a photo 2 miles away and through an emojis and 3 photo filters

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    They investigated but didn’t find any evidence of him using the word “cisgender”, therefore nothing hateful has been said.