Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.

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    Nothing changed on the UNSC when Russia vetoed the resolution to leave Ukraine.

    I’m not educated enough to say which is a “worse” violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I’ll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

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      Yes, the whole idea of countries being able to veto UN resolutions are leading to exactly this, Russia vetoing all resolutions condemning their aggression in Ukraine and the US vetoing all resolutions concerning Israel.

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        I’m not sure how a resolution condemning anything is helpful, and I don’t know why Israel and Hamas need the UN for a cease fire.

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          The “resolution” the UN needs to come to here, in my opinion, is to put the whole area (Israel and Palestine) under UN control until something equitable can be worked out.

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            UN control is notorious for not working out well, and liking children too much.

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              Not working out well compared to what’s happening now? And you think children are being protected from anything now?

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                No, of course not. There is just a very poor reputation for UN Peace keeping forces, so giving them martial law in one of the most contested places in the world might not end any better.

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      Who’s to say the call for reform is only motivated by the most recent ridiculous veto?

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      I’m not educated enough to say which is a “worse” violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I’ll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

      Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group. Russia is worse.

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        Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group.

        Isreal has been slowly annexing bits of Palestine for decades. Those terrorists are the latest reaction to that.

        Not that their violence against Israel is a good thing - far from it, but it’s also not surprising.

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          Isreal has been slowly annexing bits of Palestine for decades.

          They literally haven’t. Gaza’s borders are unchanged.

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              Israeli settlements are literally built on Israeli land. East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were won in the Six Day War.

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                So… If Russia “wins” parts of Ukrainian territory, it’s all valid?

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                  In a realpolitik sense, yeah probably. That’s why Ukraine needs to win. Nothing is going to happen to Russia if they crush Ukraine underfoot. Do you really believe something is?

                  More to the point, though, the Six Day War was a defensive war by Israel in which other countries willfully abdicated territory for Israel’s security purposes. It was not a war of annexation, so the two are completely different things.

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                Note these settlements are on the other side of the Israeli border after the 1967 war, making a large percentage of the West Bank de facto Israeli territory. And it continues to shrink.

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        Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group.

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      Genocide is obviously worse than annexation. One just wants the land, the other wants to kill everyone on it too. Israel is far more evil than Russia.

      That said nothing will change indeed.

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        Russia is committing genocide. They’re both evil. Israel has been doing it for longer and is better at it.