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GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 1 year ago

"As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, actual quote

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"As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia." - Eliezer Yudkowsky, actual quote

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GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 1 year ago
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Thought experiment: The transhuman pedophile — LessWrong
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Comment by Eliezer Yudkowsky - I may never actually use this in a story, but in another universe I had thought of having a character mention that... call it the forces of magic with normative dimension... had evaluated one pedophile who had known his desires were harmful to innocents and never acted upon them, while living a life of above-average virtue; and another pedophile who had acted on those desires, at harm to others. So the said forces of normatively dimensioned magic transformed the second pedophile's body into that of a little girl, delivered to the first pedophile along with the equivalent of an explanatory placard. Problem solved. And indeed the 'problem' as I had perceived it was, "What if a virtuous person deserving our aid wishes to retain their current sexual desires and not be frustrated thereby?" (As always, pedophilia is not the same as ephebophilia.) I also remark that the human equivalent of a utility function, not that we actually have one, often revolves around desires whose frustration produces pain. A vanilla rational agent (Bayes probabilities, expected utility max) would not see any need to change its utility function even if one of its components seemed highly probable though not absolutely certain to be eternally frustrated, since it would suffer no pain thereby.

I somehow missed this one until now. Apparently it was once mentioned in the comments on the old sneerclub but I don’t think it got a proper post, and I think it deserves one.

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      It’s worth noting that miricult.com went live about a year after Yudkowsky posted that.

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        HMM

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      It seems evil to normalize the term pedophilia by using it to describe attraction to people who have been through puberty.

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        I knew this thread would attract the fucking weirdos. drink!

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        As opposed to normalizing it by talking about it all the god damned time, for example by using it in your thought experiments instead of literally any other criminal compulsion.

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        I’m sorry to say the only people who care are paedophiles and people who’ve been hoodwinked by paedophiles. Your phrasing compels me to assume you’re the former.

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