• MushuChupacabra@piefed.world
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    Don’t think of it as the war coming home.

    Think of it as one point three million Russian casualties, followed by the war coming home.

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      2.4 mill casualties, probably more if you count those zeroed out by their own commanders. 1.3 mill KIA.

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        I am deliberately underreporting.

        I like it when some Russian apologist tries to engage on my “inflated” numbers.

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    To make this about the United States, this would be kind of like hearing a news report about Texans being shocked that Mexico struck back after America bombed them for a solid year and a half.

  • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
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    “Mr. President (Vladimir Putin), we went to the polls, we voted for you, we believed in you. And for a while, we really were protected, everything was fine. But at some point, it all collapsed.”

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      Yeah, except those who don’t vote for him end up in some kind of trouble, or somehow aren’t counted. They’re forged elections. You know - that thing Trump is trying to Institute here in the United States.

      Trump won two elections with dubious results. It looks like this last one had a whole lot of mysterious votes in all of the Battleground States. Do not believe most Americans support MAGA.

      Do not believe most Russians support Putin, either.

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    To be fair, unlike Russia, Ukraine is not bombing civilians, so while still shocking, I believe for them a bigger problem (edit: threat*) is Putin, not Ukraine.

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      Because a large amount of people don’t see Russians as civilians 😭.

      But honestly how does anyone cheer for causing chemical disasters in any city

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        Russia started a war of aggression. A lot of Russians support the war. These civilians live and work in a refinery town that supports the Russian war machine (with oil and gas products).

        The people who work in weapons manufacturing are also civilians even though they are definitely legitimate targets by the laws of war (while at work, anyway).

        Collateral damage from the destruction of legitimate targets is a murkier issue, but generally considered acceptable as long as it’s not deliberately exacerbated.

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          Which gets back to people being okay with them (civilians) getting killed and not at all leopards eating face worthy.

          • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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            Right, but they do support Putin (overwhelmingly so). The whole “leopards eating faces” thing applies just as much to them as it does to MAGA people.

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              Again, you have no idea if that’s the case with these specific people. You have no idea if they’re the Russian equivalent of MAGA.

              • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                Putin’s support is much higher than MAGA could ever dream of. Something like 80%. Plus the people who don’t support Putin don’t actually support the opposition, they’re just politically indifferent and disengaged. That’s consent for the status quo in any country.

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            You could read the article, you know:

            “Mr. President (Vladimir Putin), we went to the polls, we voted for you, we believed in you. And for a while, we really were protected, everything was fine. But at some point, it all collapsed.”

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    „I do not know whether to believe you, to believe the government, who to believe, what to think” - hasn’t she been watching the news? I’m sure government told her what she should be thinking.