Dana Bash on CNN calling the BS out

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    11 hours ago

    No, this is crap.

    “Scientists can’t agree therefore it’s not true” has been bogus through smoking and lung cancer, fossil fuels and climate change, and now ultra-processed food (UPF) and all-causes mortality and obesity.

    A good rule of thumb is that if you made it in your home from real ingredients it’s probably much healthier than if some company did food science on it until it human testers said “yeah I’d love more of that one”. It’s not a coincidence, it’s not even malice, it’s just they’re selecting for overeating.

    The malice is when the food industry tries to get you to believe that their products are healthy, that there’s nothing to see or be concerned about with UPF, and the malice is also when they’re lobbying and suing governments the world over that tell you to avoid UPF.

    Yeah, unpasteurised milk and other crap is bonkers anti-science nonsense, but so is dismissing the correlation between larger quantities of ultra-processed food and all-causes mortality. It’s real. Don’t spread their lies that it’s not.

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      1 hour ago

      I’m sorry you don’t understand science, kiddo. Scientists not agreeing just means that there isn’t an answer yet, no matter how emotionally charged the issue makes you.

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      10 hours ago

      A good rule of thumb is that if you made it in your home from real ingredients it’s probably much healthier than if some company did food science on it until it human testers said “yeah I’d love more of that one”.

      That’s right, and exactly what I said. It’s a good rule of thumb. It’s not, however, a well defined scientific category. The reason the rule of thumb works is that if you cook something yourself from ingredients it’s probably got more fiber, more vitamins, less sugar, and less fat, than the commercial alternative. Not because it has fewer processing steps done to it.

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        3 hours ago

        It’s not the processing, it’s the preservatives and other edible non-food junk they put in to make it last longer and keep customers coming back for more and more and more.

        It’s called food science, and it works. It works very well indeed. Way too well for our health. You test for moreishness and you manufacture the ones the panel loves and wants more of. Result? Food that people really want more of. Its not magic and it’s not deliberately bad, it’s just that the inevitable result is the obesity epidemic.

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          1 hour ago

          You know that food science shows that there isn’t nearly as much of a problem as you claim, right, sparky?