I find the quality and variety of discussions on the fediverse to be lower than what I had on reddit. Lemmings have strong preconceived notions and little interest in changing viewpoints from new information. I think I’ll be switching back.

Edit: you’ll find that most of the comments deny any shortcomings of the culture and go directly to invalidating my opinions via character assassination. If lemmy was a community that actually stood for the ideals which it espouses it would take constructive criticism in the spirit in which it was intended. QED.

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    I disagree. I feel that on Reddit, the type of users and discussions were mostly toxic and based on popularity. Lemmy is far from perfect, and there are aspects about it that I feel certainly are lacking, but to suggest that it’s a bigger echo chamber than reddit, I find hard to believe. But, if you can provide me with some examples that highlight your point of view, I would be interested.

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      You can literally predict the comments on reddit these days before looking. It’s the same articles, same top comments, over and over again. You try to be original there and you get down voted. Got to stick to the template and karma can be yours :/

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        I always hated that about Reddit; the lack of authenticity. I tried to be my genuine self, and always was downvoted for it. It started to feel like maybe somebody took offense and wrote a bot to follow and downvote everything I posted. Yes, I’m paranoid. :)

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        So basically all subreddits are actually sub-subreddits of the subreddit simulator subreddit.

        God I hate that that sentence actually parses and is a thing that makes sense in the English language.

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      I love how much more international and diverse lemmy is. I’m American, but I am happier with the fact that lemmy isn’t 85%+ Americans like on reddit (not a real statistic). I enjoy seeing more content from different perspectives and nationalities.

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          Hey, at least it legitimately actually is an unpopular opinion.

          Still baffles me how people struggle with the concept that an unpopular opinion discussion board is intended to and often does include actual unpopular opinions.

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            It probably has more to do with the fact that lemmy doesn’t default to your curated “home” when logged in. People might not see the community it’s from and just think it’s a random person complaining about lemmy

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      One problem I have is that the core design problem of Reddit is the use of user upvotes/downvotes to sort (and either highlight or hide) based on the number. But not only does an opinion unpopular not mean that it’s wrong, it’s vitally important for any democratic society that we are regularly exposed to viewpoints that differ from our own.

      Lemmy doesn’t challenge that, and I wish it did.

      Tbh I suppose I just want old-school vBulletin forum boards back, but I don’t know any general-purpose ones…

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      Density of toxic rhetoric is through the roof on lemmy. It rivals what you’d find on bad private forums of yore.

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        Please provide me examples, because as far as I’m concerned, I’m just not seeing the same level of toxicity you are apparently.

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          Uh, I see the stuff with the politics stuff but… how is their opinion without explanation of Star Trek toxic?

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            They’re not Trek

            They’re not the arbiter of Trek. They have no input on what is and is not real Trek. They can like it and not like it all they want, thats opinion. But it’s pretty toxic and shitty to try and claim that because it doesn’t fit with your personal views that it isn’t real Star Trek.

            It is indeed toxic but frankly it’s more pathetic piss baby behavior than anything else.

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              It’s a rhetorical expression that says that the subject goes against the spirit of the franchise. There’s no claim of authority in there, and I don’t see why you think so.

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          If it ain’t Tomino it ain’t Gundam.

          If it ain’t Lucas it ain’t Star Wars.

          If it ain’t Roddenberry it ain’t Trek.

          Importantly if you think Kurtzman is making Trek then you misunderstand the series. Star Trek is about a future where humanity lifts itself fully out of its worst aspects. It shows us what we should aspire to be. Kurtzman just wants to make Starship Troppers without the satire.

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              Is it gatekeeping to say fan fiction is not canon? Kurtzman’s Trek is bad fanfiction with legal cover. I could write some nonsense and slap Star Trek on it and I wouldn’t be able to force you to consider it Star Trek. If I had a billion dollars and bought the rights to the name would that change your mind?

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                  Why are you so upset? I’m not old or racist. You did look through my comments and cherry picked examples to try to smear me. I’m very liberal, but admitting that would be a big backpedal. You disagree with my opinions, so I must be evil. It’s a bad sign with someone of your disposition is in a position of authority. If you wear the uniform you should strive to be worthy of it.

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        What subs are you in? I can think of a few that are terrible, so I blocked them, and many more where I don’t think I have ever seen more than critical opinion.