Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post, thereā€™s no quota here and the bar really isnā€™t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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      AWS: you will pay. also, shit works. also, you get customer service.
      Azure: youā€™re running Windows, you hate yourself, probably both
      Google: you have transcended beyond such earthly requirements as ā€œcustomer serviceā€ or ā€œfunctions that donā€™t get deprecated in three yearsā€
      Hetzner: you run a herd of carefully groomed pets and not cattle
      OVH: wot is dis ā€œuptimeā€ ov which u speek
      Oracle: lol
      Some Guy LLC: I would rather sign up with Oracle

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        I guess thereā€™s still DigitalOcean and Linode, the Azure and AWS of Some Guy LLC, respectively.

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          Iā€™ve been using DigitalOcean for years as a personal VPS box, and Iā€™ve had no complaints. Not sure how well theyā€™d scale (in terms of cost) for a site like this.

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            this is one part of the problem, yeah - pretty much all the VPS offerings are extremely painful cost-wise if you need chonky hosts

            rootservers (or things off the serverbidding market) are way better bang for buck (i.e. my all-the-things gremlin box is dual-4TB 64GB i7-something, at ~38eur/mo)

            I really, really hope they sort this shit out

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          Linode now brought to you by Akamai, the CDN that also exists, you know (itā€™s not just CloudFlareont!)

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            Off the cuff I think (and would have to doublecheck) Akamai is probably bigger by a fair deal, theyā€™re just not nearly as loud

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        Azure is great and doesnā€™t require you to use Windows. I will not stand for such slander.

        Also I love how literally no one can remember that IBM also has a cloud.

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          Azure is great

          what kind of enterprise hell is your daily life, for you to enjoy such curses as azure? :D

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            I hosted a single Linux VM on the free studentā€™s subscription and didnā€™t hate it.

            AWS was a nightmare on the other hand. At least a VM on Azure is called an Azure VM and not Elastic Rubber Evolution 2: Blue Artemis Service.

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      fuck sakes this is aggravatingly disappointing to see from them

      Iā€™d been a bit sour already because of the power and IP pricing pushes, but I know the former is bc putin. the latter fucking sucks, itā€™s aggressive and feels like trying to get additional revenue for nothing (although I havenā€™t compared RIPE pricing to see if this feeling bears out (and even then, fucking hello? fucking RIPE going on continual price ballooning is some other fucking shit too. but I digressā€¦))

      but what the fuck at this. Iā€™ve had hetzner boxes with other peopleā€™s shitty php getting content injected and growing coinminers and shit, and none of that has ever had a response like ā€œyou need to get rid of that domain/customerā€. itā€™s had the usual temp-IP-blackhole crap (which I get)

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        note that this instance is also on hetzner (cause I was also fairly happy with them til now, other than a bit of missing functionality), so suggestions of reasonably-priced alternatives that donā€™t suck and will let us run NixOS are appreciated

        though I might need a bit of convincing if those alternatives take the form of ā€œOVH doesnā€™t suck nowā€ or ā€œgo ahead and put your human flesh near Larry Ellisonā€

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        i really really hope Hetzner can get their shit together here because this is a fucking pain to even think about. I got shit to do ya know.

        every BOFH thinks they could do their own AWS with gaffer tape and paperclips. i actually thought ā€œoh i could justā€ and then had to whack myself on the head with a newspaper and say NO

        i have not the time any more for Some Guy LLC and especially not for being Some Guy LLC, there is good reason to go with the inhuman corporate behemoth and itā€™s because iā€™m tiiiiired

        you will always need your bofh skills in good order and a bugout bag of last nightā€™s fresh backups to hand, but given that one can camp out on Inhuman Corporate Behemoth for years

        thereā€™s comp sci experiments and then thereā€™s services, but services are work and if i wanted to work iā€™d get a job

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          @dgerard @froztbyte I always tell people that the reason so many systems nerds (I donā€™t use BOFH any more as thatā€™sā€¦ not really an attitude I like identifying with, it hasnā€™t aged well) use Macs. Itā€™s because once you get back from work, frankly, the LAST thing you want to do is system administration on your home machine and OS X is just *nix enough.

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        holy fuck hetzner what in the fuck are you doing. please stop having the lowest tier of the abuse team try to trick the woem.men admin into accepting the shit non-apology legal drafted as a way to try and head off a lawsuit. nobody cares that your PR department got inconvenienced by the strong public response to this (in fact, itā€™s a good thing)

        go and very publicly commit to making policy changes thatā€™ll protect LGBTQ+ folks or fuck off. shit in a way thatā€™ll be legally expensive and embarrassing if you donā€™t follow through or get off the fucking pot. having your low-level IT staff pretend youā€™re Some Guy LLC is a bad fucking look. we all know the guy whose only job is to send threatening emails and press the ā€œclose accountā€ button doesnā€™t have any power to do anything of substance. why in fuck is that guy still in the woem.men adminā€™s inbox making demands?